[BTCC] Oulton Park, 17/18 June 2023, Rounds 13/14/15

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

regarding this false starts thing, i seen so many old races including F1 where it was really blatant and no fuzz was made of it

As you say 'old races'.
Nowadays, it's (rightly) penalised.

[Matt K]

Collard flashing his lights while being passed by Turkington and being miles behind Ingram was sort of funny.

BMW seems absolutely the fastest car around here.

[AnnoyedMoose]

Originally Posted by Matt K

Collard flashing his lights while being passed by Turkington and being miles behind Ingram was sort of funny.

I think that was in reaction to the track limits warning flag he was being shown.

[Matt K]

Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

I think that was in reaction to the track limits warning flag he was being shown.

Ahh same old trick again, everyone's against him...

[Adamcas87]

So everyone after Thruxton wanted Sutton pegged back etc cos of dominating race 1 and 2

Are people gonna have the same conversation about hill dominating Race 1 and 2?

[Trebor902]

Originally Posted by Adamcas87

So everyone after Thruxton wanted Sutton pegged back etc cos of dominating race 1 and 2

Are people gonna have the same conversation about hill dominating Race 1 and 2?

Of course they won't because everyone thinks that gorm is the best thing since sliced bread. Clearly bmws have had more than just an increase in start boost.

[porsche962fan]

it's just track specific for Hill , not the regular pattern

[Jon411]

Originally Posted by Trebor902

Of course they won't because everyone thinks that gorm is the best thing since sliced bread. Clearly bmws have had more than just an increase in start boost.

Or how about we are on a RWD friendly track in warm weather and the softest tyre is the main tyre this weekend rather than the medium.


The FWD was strong in qualifying - if anything had been turned up we would have had all the BMWs up front in qualifying.

If you look at the fastest laps Jake was under 1/10 of a second faster than Sutton, who in turn was under 1/10 second faster than Ingram and Turks

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Trebor902

Clearly bmws have had more than just an increase in start boost.

Yes, they've also arrived at a track that suits the car's strengths.

[Matt K]

Yeah, BMWs have always been great at Oulton but my impression is something's been done in the background. Not going to lie, I'd rather see Sutton or Ingram (or Turks) winning but well, it is what it is.
The races were quite lively IMO.

[Pringles]

Originally Posted by Adamcas87

So everyone after Thruxton wanted Sutton pegged back etc cos of dominating race 1 and 2



Are people gonna have the same conversation about hill dominating Race 1 and 2?

Of course they won't. The fact Sutton has been able to do it in a car that isn't the fastest in the speed traps and they couldn't match him is irrelevant. Now they have had a boost tweak suddenly they are able to romp away with it like Sutton did with a slower car in a straight line.

Napa has worked wonders with that car and not based on speed alone.

So I expect now they have gained more advantage back for their demon starts things are now in their favour again. The whole reason they were pegged back in the first place was due to demon starts and being able to take people off the line.

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[thetool]

There's biblical rain in the vicinity of Oulton Park at the moment. If it hits before the end of race 3 that will be the end of running for the weekend.

[Evantra]

Three place grid drop for Cook for compact with Thompson

https://www.barc.net/wp-content/uplo...-Josh-Cook.pdf

[Matt K]

Turkington for the win?

[Jon411]

Originally Posted by Matt K

Turkington for the win?

As long as he gets Cammish off the start and clears Morgan quickly without Ingram going with him... and it stays dry you would think so but have a feeling this race could be a bit of a mess.

[Matt K]

Looks like rain's already there.

[Jon411]

Can't see a lot of umbrellas going up on the TV coverage so may be a bit early to risk the wets

[porsche962fan]

WOW

finally Sutton having bad luck with fragile car

[Matt K]

What the hell was that

[Jon411]

Hmmm... could be an interesting manshall's decision considering what they did to Hill at Donington

[porsche962fan]

speaking of Hill will WSR finally play team tactics and let thim thru

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

WOW

finally Sutton having bad luck with fragile car

I don't think it was bad luck, but an error of judgment.

And I think most cars are more fragile than a concrete wall!

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Trebor902

Crap driving standards yet again

Where?

[Matt K]

I think that Sutton's title campaign has just entered the uphill phase. Not going to be an 'easy' season for him at all, with BMWs so resurgent I fear this might be going Hill's way.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

I don't think it was bad luck, but an error of judgment.

And I think most cars are more fragile than a concrete wall!

bad luck

it could have been so much different with Tingram having the broken suspension on this too fragile cars