City Challenge

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by urdragon

Well the big spoilers of these racing cars made them better for urban city slow corners than for fast tracks, I guess is more effective a 458 GT3 or 458 GTE than a 458 road going version on heavily slow urban corners.

Naw, wings don't really come into play on start-stop circuits as they depend on airflow and that increases with speed.

[urdragon]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

Naw, wings don't really come into play on start-stop circuits as they depend on airflow and that increases with speed.

Ups I remembered the aero is to increase downforce in fast corners to increase traction. Hehehe.

[Salamus]

Originally Posted by Fogelhund

Toronto has won it a couple of times. 94' was the last I think.

Toronto won it back2back in 92, 93 and Montreal was the best team in 94 until the season was cancelled.

[Purist]

It depends on the layout of the street circuit. Some have had a number of very quick corners, like both iterations of the Molson Indy Vancouver course.

As for GT2 vs. GT3, well more aero on the GT2 can hurt on the straights, but then, as street circuits are stereotypically maligned for their tight corners, they are also criticized for, generally, not having very long straights. On another note though, the GT2s have wider tires, and that aero does help in the braking zones.

(Test it out and see which set of trade-offs is the better combination for a street circuit.)

[I Rosputnik]

San Francisco would be fun to watch if they went in a layout similar to the Bullitt car chase scene.

(Sadly this would be suicide due to how steep the hills are...)

[urdragon]

Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

San Francisco would be fun to watch if they went in a layout similar to the Bullitt car chase scene.

(Sadly this would be suicide due to how steep the hills are...)

Hehehe, I smell a little Gimkana 5 influence xD...

[I Rosputnik]

Originally Posted by urdragon

Hehehe, I smell a little Gimkana 5 influence xD...

No too much time playing Driver San Francisco...

Here's the information in English and some more details.

[NaBUru38]

Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

San Francisco would be fun to watch if they went in a layout similar to the Bullitt car chase scene.

That's why I'm proposing Global Rallycross

[I Rosputnik]

Hello city challenge website! (Click on company for a three minute concept video.)

The general aim of this seems to be bringing racing closer to the masses.

[Fogelhund]

Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

Hello city challenge website! (Click on company for a three minute concept video.)

The general aim of this seems to be bringing racing closer to the masses.

Urban Street Races have a terrible track record of failure, with a few exceptions.

Some examples. http://lastturnclub.com/index.php?op...=291&Itemid=97

[tbz]

Four team entries confirmed for the opening race already.

Muehlner
2x Porsche GT3 R

Vita4one
2x BMW Z4 GT3

Vita4one
2x Ferrari 458 GT3

Reiter
2x Lamborghini GALLARDO P600

[GT3.14]

Good Idea
http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...cus-12816.html

Not so sure about this one
http://www.citychallenge.com/information-teams

[Go_For_Pole]

Originally Posted by GT3.14

Not so sure about this one
http://www.citychallenge.com/information-teams

Why? Not enouggh travel money?

[urdragon]

If the reward is subjected to BoP, then I would find quite smart to publish the BoP few weeks before accepting inscriptions, in one round events there should not be any suspicious comments about unfair BoP, so no one can blame the Fia about the event results.

Well as the BoP is subject to the layout that's impossible so all cars must be transported to baku to test the BoP, so the BoP once again has to be very accurate...

[Koenigsegg]

Originally Posted by GT3.14

Good Idea
http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...cus-12816.html

(Dutch) Supercar Challenge is already using this. On some cars it looks very weird.

[GT3.14]

Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

Why? Not enouggh travel money?

Never seen a series that pays such large amounts for teams to come. Usually there are entry fees, not entry rewards. Paying 5.000 per entry, hotel rooms, and shipping costs? Does not seem like a sustainable business model. I could understand that the teams that have committed so far probably would not have done so if they had to flip the bill. Maybe Ratel should start paying teams to come to GT1/GT3 championship races.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by GT3.14

Maybe Ratel should start paying teams to come to GT1/GT3 championship races.

And when the music stopped SunRed was the only team left standing ....

[Rodger Davies]

I would suggest that the whole concept behind this is not to make money but to act as PR/advertisement for the location involved - especially due to the places involved.

No team is going to ship all their equipment to Azerbaijan for a non-championship race without a decent incentive, so I would imagine that the German company running it has received a large amount to host the event and that fee is divided up accordingly.

At the end of the day, if it works for the cities themselves, it's a novel enough idea that it could provide a few eastern-European season-ending races to watch. As the post in the other thread about street races infers, I doubt the events will last many years each, but if one does stick and they can turn it into a GT version of Macau (yes, I know there is...) then all power to them.

"City Challenge is bringing [people] together to celebrate a more sustainable future for our cities." - my favourite part of the website...

[Go_For_Pole]

Originally Posted by GT3.14

Never seen a series that pays such large amounts for teams to come. Usually there are entry fees, not entry rewards. Paying 5.000 per entry, hotel rooms, and shipping costs? Does not seem like a sustainable business model. I could understand that the teams that have committed so far probably would not have done so if they had to flip the bill. Maybe Ratel should start paying teams to come to GT1/GT3 championship races.

Who knows, maybe the Azers pay him

[GT3.14]

Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

I would suggest that the whole concept behind this is not to make money but to act as PR/advertisement for the location involved - especially due to the places involved.

I figured as much. I'll admit to not knowing much about the city or the country for that matter until I did some research after seeing the race information, so their PR is working. Don't think they will get their return on investment by enlightening some petrolheads on a forum though. Will there be any streaming of the event? I might actually bother watching since the motorsport calendar is pretty dry that weekend. The final Blancpain round is the next weekend though, can't imagine that will help bring in many entries.

[kurski]

Dutch ex-Formula 1 driver and Le Mans class winner Jos Verstappen will be competing in the City Challenge GT Race on a street circuit in Baku, Azerbaijan, October 5th till 7th. Verstappen will be racing a Porsche 911 in the Baku event.

[tbz]

Leipert Motorsport and GRT Grasser Racing joining CC. (either Lamborghini)
Jos Verstappen to share a Porsche with Jacques Villeneuve.

[Purist]

Anyone think the growing tensions with Armenia could potentially put a spanner in the works?

[urdragon]

Heico & Grasser racing Join city challenge:

http://www.citychallenge.com/participating-teams


Porsche GT3 R: http://www.muehlner-motorsport.com

BMW Z4 GT3: http://www.vita4one.de

Lamborghini GALLARDO P600: http://www.reiter-engineering.com

Ferrari 458 GT3: http://www.vita4oneteamitaly.it

Lamborghini Gallardo GT3: http://www.leipert-motorsport.de

Lamborghini Gallardo GT3: http://www.grasser-racing.com

Mercedes Benz SLS AMG GT3: http://www.heico-motorsport.com

[urdragon]

New update, Reiter drops:

Mühlner Motorsport, Porsche 911 GT3 R: http://www.muehlner-motorsport.com

Vita4One Racing Team, BMW Z4 GT3: http://www.vita4one.de

Vita4One Italy, Ferrari 458 GT3: http://www.vita4oneteamitaly.it

rhino's Leipert Motorsport, Lamborghini Gallardo P600+ GT3: http://www.leipert-motorsport.de

GRT Rasser Racing, Lamborghini Gallardo P600+: http://www.grasser-racing.com

HEICO Motorsport, Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3: http://www.heico-motorsport.com

RWT Racing Team, Corvette ZR06: http://www.rwt-racing.de/

Hexis Racing, Mclaren MP4-12C GT3: http://www.hexisracing.com/

Attempto Racing, Porsche GT3: http://www.attemptoracing.de/

Molitor Racing, Porsche GT3: http://www.molitor-racing.de/

Motopark: http://www.motopark.com/

Easy Race, Ferrari F458 GT3: site under construction.
Download entry list:
121018_Press_release_City_Challenge_Entry_GB.pdf