The Touring Car Register

[CaptRustyNail]

Im surprised some many E46's were made! Liking the website so far, Thank you!

[Metzo]

there are a lot more e46 than the ones listed so far. many modified super production e46 were entered in the russian championship in 2005-2007. not sure if those should be counted as s2000 cars though.

engstler entered one of them in the asian championship in 2006-07 as well.

[redshoes]

BMW themselves don't know how many E46s were produced. Documentation is not complete and there was various homologations that changes regularly. Best they can tell us is around 100, which includes DTC (Super Production) and S2000.

[andy97]

Given the numbers of these sorts of cars produced, particularly the S2000s, then these must have a great future in historic racing! Perhaps a separate class within the Super Tourer series to ensure big grids.

Yes, I know they are not that old, but the Super Tourers became historic racers 3-4 years ago, and these must follow on in the same vain, in a few years time.

If I had an adequate lottery win, I think I'd be looking for a BMW 3 series S2000 to put away for the near future.

[Finesse]

Does anybody know how many Citroen TC1 cars were build ?

[GM10]

Originally Posted by Finesse

Does anybody know how many Citroen TC1 cars were build ?

4 in 2014, 4 in 2015, 2 in 2016 for sure. So they're almost 10.

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by andy97

Given the numbers of these sorts of cars produced, particularly the S2000s, then these must have a great future in historic racing! Perhaps a separate class within the Super Tourer series to ensure big grids.

As luck would have it ....

HSCC series has always had an invitational class for cars other than Group A and Super Touring with a similar level of performance that fitted within the series ethos. S2000 wasn't specifically mentioned that's essentially where the class was aimed. Up until last year Steve Dymoke was a regular entry in his ex Giovanardi S2000 Alfa 156. As a genuine ex-factory, ex-championship winning car in correct period livery, it pretty much summed up the series ethos.

This year there's been a subtle chance. Instead of having a fairly generic catch-all description, the class now specifically mentions pre-2006 S2000 and BTC-spec cars. The pre-2006 restriction was partly chosen to give a cut off between E46 and E90.

I don't know yet what the take up will be like. There are 2 or 3 S2000 that I think we might see plus a BTC car which I hoping will be out.

[andy97]

I'll nip out and buy a lottery ticket!

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by andy97

Given the numbers of these sorts of cars produced, particularly the S2000s, then these must have a great future in historic racing! Perhaps a separate class within the Super Tourer series to ensure big grids.

Cost might be an issue, though. Those engines are quite pricey to run and lack some of the cachet of the Super Tourers.

[andy97]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

Cost might be an issue, though. Those engines are quite pricey to run and lack some of the cachet of the Super Tourers.

Sure, but presumably cheaper to run than an ST.

Way out of my league anyway.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by redshoes

pre-2006 S2000 and BTC-spec cars. The pre-2006 restriction was partly chosen to give a cut off between E46 and E90.

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and the SEAT Leon ,

so those old SEAT Toledo that Bartie likes to bash and lament would be eligible

and looking back those Chevy Lacetti, Honda Accord and some Ford Focus would be also eligible then

[BillWiskins]

It's weird to think of an E90 as historic (or even sson to be) - this has made me realise that I still think 'new 3 series' when I see one...

[Metzo]

Originally Posted by GM10

4 in 2014, 4 in 2015, 2 in 2016 for sure. So they're almost 10.

during the tv broadcast it was said that the only built one new car was built for 2015 and no new cars for 2016.

[Metzo]

are you planing to add the TC1 cars one day? they are part of the S2000 regulations according to the FIA.

[redshoes]

No immediate plans to do TC1. Although in theory they are still based on the old S2000/TC2 regs, I tend to regard them as a completely different category.

There hasn't been a lot of movement of cars between teams so far, and if I'm honest how much of a future the category has.

That said, I wouldn't rule it out complete. I haven't been actively seeking out information but have been making a few notes whenever I find something of interest that might be of use at a later date.

[Racing Harz]

And TCR?

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by Racing Harz

And TCR?

Ooof, now that would be crazy to compile!

[redshoes]

Just to give you some ballpark figures.
BTC-T : about 50 cars
NGTC : about 50 cars
S2000 : we have a just under 200 listed; there are probably closer to 400 in total

There are current 100+ TCR cars, with more being built every year. I think we have enough to do already!

[GTRMagic]

Supercars?

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Supercars?

V8 Sleuth already has that more than adequately covered

http://www.v8sleuth.com.au/

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by redshoes

Just to give you some ballpark figures.
BTC-T : about 50 cars
NGTC : about 50 cars
S2000 : we have a just under 200 listed; there are probably closer to 400 in total

There are current 100+ TCR cars, with more being built every year. I think we have enough to do already!

on the super touring front the 1993 South African series is missing from the register

races are on youtube and entry list is

- 2 Toyota Chaser, story with this cars is they were BTCC Carina bought from Rouse Engineering and reshelled into Toyota Chaser because the 1993 rules stated that cars must be locally build , they even used same livery

this rule didn't apply to privateers but only works cars

- 2 Nissan Sentra

- 2 BMW 318 (E36)

- 2 Opel Astra

-2 BMW M3, one was ex 1992 Matt Neal and apperead at just one round , the other one was privtter Farouk Dangour

[mikuni]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

- 2 Toyota Chaser, story with this cars is they were BTCC Carina bought from Rouse Engineering and reshelled into Toyota Chaser because the 1993 rules stated that cars must be locally build , they even used same

Are you sure they were Chasers? Chasers are large rear wheel drive sedans - I seem to remember they were reshelled into a car smaller than a Carina/Corona, something like a Corolla or Sprinter

[porsche962fan]

my mistake, they were called Sprinter , at 5.19, AFAIK E90 Toyota platform

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiPXX5qti40

[thetool]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

*waffle waffle waffle*

Jesus christ dude stop it. You've been told already they know that it is incomplete, not because they can't google, but because they don't have sufficient information to track the chassis numbers.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by thetool

Jesus christ dude stop it. You've been told already they know that it is incomplete, not because they can't google, but because they don't have sufficient information to track the chassis numbers.

dude what are you smoking ? and what the heck are you talking about ?


most 94 entries don't have any chassis numbers either
http://www.supertouringregister.com/series/223/


Jesus Christ , calm down and read first