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your right someone died, we made car or track safer, we didnt change the racing and we made insurance compulsory
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I really can't understand why a light on the dash system has not been properly developed.With the greatest respect to all flaggies when close to other cars in heat of battle seeing a flag is hit and miss.A big orange light activated by race control or flag point will 100% catch the drivers attention.I,ve been a pack of cars when pouring down with rain and the last thing you are looking for is a flag.Your to busy watching what everybody else is doing.
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not disagreeing with you Jason, but would not have worked in this case
it was just a local yellow at the time and the light in dash system would not have worked for this |
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Totally agree but cars shouldn't pass under yellow and yes there is always the case of to late to see the incident. Just thinking maybe car should appear to of arrested speed before next flag point(not just talkin about v8,s here)would only work in SC cases or maybe make it if only local yellow.Just thinking.
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Yellow flags should have been clearly visible on approach, although half way round that bend is probably not an easy place to lift. Some sympathy there. As PVDA says, an preceding stationary yellow would have given sufficient advance warning to make a difference - should the drivers bother to observe the instruction.
It's not entirely clear, but SR may have been avoiding the spinning 16 who appears to have lost it when lifting mid corner as he's pointing in a different direction when coming into shot. With a bunched pack, a difficult spot and lack of advance yellow (and the waved on the point did that annoying wrapping itself around the pole trick) I reluctantly have to agree with racing incident in this case. |
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unfortunately the yellow flag at that flag point was only starting to be waved when the CL/RK cars had almost come to a stop, would expect SJ and DR to have been past the preceding flag point before any flag there could be unfurled. |
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so what you are saying, is in that 4 second gap 1) flag marshall starts waving flag, while he/she or his/her mate gets on the batphone to the preceding flag point 2) the preceding flag point gets notification of incident, has the time to unfurl the yellow and wave frantically 3) SJ sees and correlates the meaning of said flag 4) SJ travels the distance between flag points 5) SJ arrives within vision of the camera 50m past said flag point at 1), and already crunched Reynolds and is frantically trying to avoid hitting him for a second time? i thought you were all about the facts in your posts? |
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You read it wrong
'This' also means 'I agree with this post', just in less words Mainly a younger generation thing tho... My comment was that ALL the cars would have been in front of the preceding flag point by the time the yellow was actually out at the incident point (the one in the footage), so it wouldn't have made a difference about the guys saying the preceding point should still be yellowed (in this case only, for when the cars are spread out more, a preceeding yellow would be helpful) |
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30 Mar 2011, 06:29 (Ref:2855711) | #94 | |
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your post while able to be understood by most people contained a change of names for the flag point, thus stealthy has been able to misinterpret your post. he is referring to the preceding checkpoint as the one before the checkpoint you see in the footage
unless Stealthy now thinks that the accident was in deed an accident and Stevie J was just caught up in it. But im doubtful thats what he is thinking in this case |
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All cars in the taxi series carry GPS and throttle position logging, they need to for data debriefing, so why can't it be used for penalties to be applied in situations like this?
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not sure how that helps in situations like this?
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Presumably it may assist in determining whether Mr Kelly or Mr Lowndes deliberately drove into each other, if the data shows the accelerator pressure increased before/during/after contact...
I just thought we had Phillip Island 2006 back on the teev, albeit with much much less to play for.... |
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30 Mar 2011, 09:55 (Ref:2855792) | #100 | ||
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By having evidence on exactly what was going on in each car to help determine who was doing what, before, during and after the accident. By checking all cars you could see who lifted when the yellows were displayed and who didn't, that way penalites could be handed out and perhaps a culture of, if I lift and the other guy doesn't, I'll lose ground, might be changed and maybe a life saved. These cars have the technology, so why not use it.
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