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It's a bit sad how pathetic BMW has become. I see all their speeches as blatant excuses...
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I may have missed something, but the battery swap technology is now, those new Tesla S's do it, just no one really wants to invest in the infrastructure to make it available.
http://gas2.org/2013/06/21/video-tes...y-end-of-year/ An endurance race needs to be a single car, it goes without saying. Battery swap technology in race cars is feasible, I like the concept, but I'd still rather race cars had an ICE component for as long as possible. Sound is an important aspect to me for a racing car. |
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There is a reason why FE cars don't use battery swapping, and it is that the batteries are a stressed member of the chassis.
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I get this point, although part of me goes back to thinking how it is prototype racing. In addition there are quite a few things that aren't realistic/doable in the real world already. This may be a little more extreme. It would also be interesting, which I like. |
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one could just sink induction coils over all the WEC tracks, recharging those batteries wouldn't be a big problem then
(and using induction coils for recharging is something BMW wants to do anyways (sample source (de)) - at least without movement, there's fraunhofer's Artega1 as well, etc.) Last edited by Ephaeton; 6 Aug 2015 at 19:04. Reason: found artega1 again |
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Which is entering Formula E, that was the question posed to him. Either as a manufacturer team or supplying battery tech, thats what direct involvement is. What other capacity would it be? Currently theyre just a pace car
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I'm sure you have never committed such a crime yourself.
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6 Aug 2015, 20:58 (Ref:3564232) | #164 | |
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I thought it was pr speak or whatever the termination is for a coy "yes we would join, if..." not a definitive no or a yes. But from every other answer given, that looked to me the most solid.
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The current management of BMW seems incredibly conservative and reluctant to involve their brand in any sort of racing which requires a substantial effort to win. That's why instead of building a bespoke sportscar which would allow them to compete in GT3 and GTLM they made a hack Z4 with an M3 engine and now a fat M6, and that's why they prefer to spend their time in DTM where most components are standardized and the result is less dependant on machinery. I'll bet a beer 6-pack with all you guys on how all these BMW rumored involvements with WEC will vaporize and they'll consistently deny it. Why? Because it takes monies to win, and the BMW board prefers to direct investment into treehugging technologies and their vanity project "i" brand.
Forget about the BMW of old. The manufacturer I learned to admire doesn't exist anymore. I'm not one of those braindead fanboys who hate the new turbo cars for the sake of "not being NA", but not seeing BMW up there with the big boys, and no longer being a brand that inspires passion, frustrates me a lot. They haven't been doing "everything" wrong, though. I quite like their focus on lightweight technology and mass production of carbon fiber. |
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I hated when they run the M3 GT2 taxi cab. Though had it been today I probably wouldn't really care. Bur most of all they were quite whiny and apalling in WTCC. Top on the cake was probably the time when they switched factory car gearboxes for non allowed sequential in order to get weight breaks. Laughed when they got busted.
Anyway of all marques involved in racing, other than Merc it's prob the one I'm least interrest in following so I don't really mind what they do and don't do. (And the Merc hate actually mainly comes from childhood memories, we had a crappy former 80's taxi Merc with faulty whistling exhaust, oh my god it was embarrassing to travel on that when literally everybody heard the sound and turned their heads in our little town) |
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M6 will be fine. Hate BMW all you want, at least theyre racing something. Lots of companies dont even do that. If the M6 can be upgraded to GTE spec, good. What other car would you suggest they use? The M4's little engine just wont cut it. So silly to see people complain about GTE becoming homologation specials, but here comes BMW with an actual GT and they get criticized You cant win at everything.
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The most direct way would be to let Rahal develop the LMGT car and then take the IMSA invite to Le Mans.
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The spokesman person plays down G56 (good... good!) but hard to see hydrogen being written to the regs by 2018 and in practice earlier because of lead times.
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A few weeks ago, Jens Marquardt openly worried about DTM becoming to aero-depended as BMW uses their road-car wind tunnels to develop the race cars, they don't even have dedicated facilities for that the way Audi or Mercedes have. Similar to how Porsche has done, BMW would need to basically build a whole new factory or find someone external to do it. That what makes a BMW LMP1 programme so unlikely..not only do they need to front the money for the programme as such, they have to make substantial investments as well. So even if BMW was willing to do it, which I sort of doubt, I would expect the lead-up time would at least be 3-4 years, minimum. That is unless they find an external partner. |
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