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Do we need a 24hr race for touring cars?
Recently I talked to an American friend about the 24hrs at Spa and how it used to be a touring car event until not all that long ago.
And while I really like is as a GT-event, the switch to sportscars still left something of a gap in the touring car world. The longest touring car only race I can think of right now are the BTCS 12hours of Spa, but wouldn't it be nice to have a Touring Car only 24hour race - at Spa or elsewhere - back on the schedule? |
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Great idea, maybe at Bathurst. And make it a race for S2000's S1600's and group-n's.
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Would love to see this at Brands Hatch, we have a GT Night Race in November and watching that in the dark is great fun.
Touring Cars 24hrs would be brilliant! |
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I think, it's not a good idea - to exclude GT from grid. It's not easy - to gather many touring cars in one place. In VLN ADAC prefer not to do it. I think, if we want famous touringcar 24h race, we must promote one of existing race, extend length, class variety, prize money and media coverage. For example 12h Spa - let them to race every touringcar class, extend race length to 24h format.
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It would be good, and Valenok i think it would be incredibly easy to gather a vast amount of Touring Cars at somewhere like Spa, it's fairly central and easily accessible to WTCC, BTCC, STCC and DTC teams!
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Nothing against an endurance race but I prefer the ETC Cup gets a big boost. So all major entries from BTCC, STCC, DTC, WTCC privateers and others take part in this event.
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How about running it as part of the ETC Cup? Or an end of season invitational for all teams from the BTCC, WTCC, STCC etc?? Would like to see how a 888 Vectra with a Jordan/Givo/Neal line up goes up against a BMW Entry with Priualx/Muller/Farfus!
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I think my previous sugestion (Bathurst) wouldn't be the best. I think somewhere where no touringcar races are held would be the best. Now we need to find something decent |
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For purely selfish reasons I would say Hockenheim, but that track is a real snoozer now and not really a proper touring car track.
I think Brands Hatch would really be awesome, but they seem to have some noise-issues, so I am not sure if a 24hr event would be feasible there... How about Spielberg/A1/Österreichring/Whateveryoucall it? The track will be reopened next year. Or maybe Sachsenring? |
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[QUOTE=Speed-King;2507200]How about Spielberg/A1/Österreichring/Whateveryoucall it? The track will be reopened next year.[QUOTE]
Great idea, it needs a decent top event and DTM doesn't want to make a deal with them. If they build the westschleife extension it will be perfect. If you really want to know the track will probably be known as the Redbullring since they own it although I would prefer Österreichring or Spielbergring. |
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I might be wrong, but wasn't there a mini-enduro touring car race (BTCC) in the late 80's, held at Donnington Park?
Something like a 4 or 8 hour event? |
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it would take too much modification to a S2000 car to make it workable for enduro racing
really want to see the britcar 24hr back, run what you brung, anything goes and possibly the best event to marshal |
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If Supertourers could run Spa in the 90s, S2000 cars surely can today, there have already been a few S2000 cars racing at the 'Ring....
And with the SRO making it a GT2-race next year, there actually might be a chance for touring car racing to reclaim Spa a few years down the line.... |
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The Tourist Trophy at Silverstone used to be for Touring Cars in the ETCC and WTCC. |
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Gotta be honest I am not a great fan of 24 hour races, even Le Mans. I think theya re pretty6 much only wirthy of interest to manufactureres for advertising and proving technology.
I dont really think this is important to the likes of Chevrolet or Seat or BMW, and when you consider a SEAT coulc probably do a third as many laps as anything else its pretty pointless. I think maybe the Nurburg 24 hr is perhapsthe haven for this type of thing and quite often the tourers of various types do well. As for the S2000 cars well can't see the point really otehr than to please the fans who like long races! |
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If Endurance racing was more part of Touring Car racing, there would be major development in improving the reliability of the cars, similar to the way Deisel technology has been developed rapidly at Le Mans in recent years, which would definetaly benifit road cars.
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I think in reality the diesels used in WSPC are not that similar to the oens you can buy on the road! They use very special fuel and stuff dont they so in reality how closely linked are they to your A4 TD!!
And in order to promote a brand you either race the same one or race something that isnt marketed by you but is badged. Audi do both in DTM and WSPC and BMW only race WTCC to promote the 3 Series, nothing else. Chevy are trying to stop everyone thinking Daewoo and SEAT have a VW budget to spend on diesel who are linked back to Audi after all, and I cant imagine Repsol are too unhappy at the link in Spain and South America where they seem to race a lot, hmmmmmmmmm 24 hour TC race, no. Mixed in with other stuff fair enough |
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