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16 Feb 2021, 23:53 (Ref:4035512) | #1 | |
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Bathurst 1977 Query
Just started watching the Bathurst 1977 DVD, and have a question about the race start.
It appears from the DVD, the cars were pushed out from the pits and gridded up in start order. It then seems that they we’re given a three minute board, then a countdown to the green flag being dropped for the race start. In those days they didn’t get a warm lap or sighting lap before the start of the race? It could be some camera footage missing, but it would interesting starting on cold tyres and a heavy fuel load. |
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No warm up lap.I would have to check my Great Race Annuals to confirm but not sure there were warm up laps at 1000 before WTCC in 1987 at least.No race morning warm ups either.
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But still a significant length of time from the completion of those laps to the start of the race. |
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1979 or 1980 was the last time they pushed the cars onto the grid. By 1981 they did a parade lap instead around to the grid, did the pageantry then straight into the race.
As Alan says 1987 was the first time they did a proper warmup lap just prior to the race start, from memory it was two warmup laps in 1987 too? Did they have a warm up session in 1987, or did that come in for 1988? |
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Just finished watching the Bathurst 77 DVD, complete with PM of the day Malcolm Fraser presenting the trophies to the winning drivers.
Mr Moffat was very professional thanking all his sponsors etc, and even throwing promotional packets of Camel filters cigarettes out to the punters. What was actually went wrong with his Falcon over the last ten or so laps, something broken in the right hand front suspension? He certainly drove it very sedately down the mountain and through any right hand corners. Interesting dice between Kevin Bartlett and Alan Grice in the A9X’s , before KB retired. |
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Edit: found this account after posting which backs my thoughts. https://www.pressreader.com/australi...83265981564472 Last edited by E.B; 1 Sep 2021 at 02:51. Reason: added link to confirming story |
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Always wondered about this.
The commonly accepted story is brakes, but i watched it on tv on the day (thus my username)and i have the dvd set, and between the smoke from the F-R corner and the car seems to be sagging. Also, if Ickx was too hard on car and almost cost AM the win, would he have got him back in 78? I have always suspected it may have been a bit more |
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2 Sep 2021, 09:28 (Ref:4071604) | #9 | |
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Thanks for that info.
The left hand rear tyre went or was going flat and was changed about twenty laps from the finish. The other guy that was impressive, was Derrick Bell in the Alfa coming home in 8th position. |
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Moffat's car's front brakes were worn completely away - the backing plates included and the pistons had come out of the calipers. The car was also on 7 cylinders with a broken rocker.
And I think you're right; it had a nasty sag at the end there. Moffat's incredible mechanical sympathy carried that one home. Jacky Ickx wasn't used to cars that were so close to standard. He complained about the lack of brakes in practice 'when I push the brakes in the Porsche I go through the windscreen'. Moffat told him 'you won't have that problem here.' Kramer |
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I remember reading Moff saying his brake pedal went to the floor at Forrests Elbow with maybe 12 laps to go.
But he was never going to pit. Everything he had in the world was riding on Bathurst '77. He also had an ironclad arrangement with Colin Bond that unless Moff's car stopped, Bondy would be 2nd. Whether Bondy liked that or not is a matter for conjecture, but like the gentleman he is, he stuck to the script. |
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Don't remember that.
One thing they did swap was the driving seat. Jacky Ickx found the original seat in the #1 too uncomfortable so they swapped it for the one out of the #2. |
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( https://www.pressreader.com/australi...83265981564472 ) 1977 was the first year cross-entering within teams was allowed at Bathurst.... Moff offered the stint to Bondy but he chose to turn it down. Bondy was originally going to be Moff's co-driver, but Ford over ruled that thought and mandated each drive their own car with a co-driver. |
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I have never read it was on 7, but yes maybe, i will have o watch the end of the race again. And yes Colin was offered a stint in #1 on Sunday but declined, so he could have won either way if he wanted. He could have come first AND second - that would be one for the record books |
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10 Sep 2021, 09:02 (Ref:4072905) | #16 | |
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The bit about Bond driving Car1, was mentioned by Evan Green during the last half of the telecast.
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