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16 Apr 2003, 10:29 (Ref:570952)
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Gronholm and Burns
Gronholm is simply better than Burns! Discuss...
How much more can Burns take of being Peugeot no.2??? I know Burns is leading the championship but Gronholm has proved to be much faster... I still think Burns will be back at Subaru next year when Tommi retires. How will he fare against Solberg second time round? (I think Petter would be quicker now.) 
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16 Apr 2003, 12:07 (Ref:571025)
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Subaru would be the obvoius move if Makinen retires, but looking at the relative performances of Solberg / Makinen I'm afraid Richard will find it tough there too. |
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16 Apr 2003, 13:08 (Ref:571118)
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Gronholm is very very good. He seemed perfectly suited to the original 206 - which helped - and they probably built the evo around him. So in the 206 Gronholm is simply much better than Burns.
Burns has been perfectly honest (he usually is - unusual in any motorsport jock), his driving style isn't best suited to the characteristics and size of the 206. Either that changes over the season (a couple of wins would help!) or I guess he'll move. I hope he comes back to Subaru, and I hope the boys at Prodrive can give him a competitive car... |
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16 Apr 2003, 13:10 (Ref:571124)
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I can't see Burns staying at Pug after this season unless he gets a couple of wins
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16 Apr 2003, 21:29 (Ref:571554)
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Why would Subaru want Burns back?
Couldn't they get Rovenperra for less money? |
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16 Apr 2003, 21:58 (Ref:571583)
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I agree with Gronholm being the #1 driver for Peugeot, but the 206 might not be there longer since Provera will use the 307 either next year or two. I wonder why so far that there's no Marboro logo on those red cars this year.
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17 Apr 2003, 10:09 (Ref:571933)
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17 Apr 2003, 11:10 (Ref:571977)
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Potentially I see Burns as being as fast as Gronholm, if not faster. When the car is really working Burns has always been able to use his brilliant knowledge of the pace notes and stage conditions to produce a sublimely smooth, controlled performance that no-one else can live with. If you want evidence look at New Zealand last year and even Finland. What Burns lacks is stage-to-stage consistancy, for every stage he blitzes there are three he either messes up or simply loses "the feeling"....Gronholm can run every stage at 100%, Burns can't.
In time he could learn to do this, but I think as an all round "package" Gronholm is worryingly close to perfection. If Burns goes back to Subaru I reckon he's be very close to Solberg, but I'd love to see him and Martin in the Fords. |
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17 Apr 2003, 12:18 (Ref:572034)
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Autosport mentions today that Burns is to get a test of the new 307 WRC "within the next 6 weeks". How good or bad this test goes will allegedly be the deciding factor on whether to stay at Peugeot or not for him.
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23 Apr 2003, 22:19 (Ref:578723)
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Just think of the people who would kill for his Peugeot seat! And he's wasting a car that can easily win!
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