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2 Sep 2004, 16:51 (Ref:1084993)
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Big shunt for Schumacher
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Seven-time world champion Michael Schumacher suffered a major accident in testing at Monza today when the left-rear tyre of his Ferrari blew out at the end of the start/finish straight. Schumacher hit the barriers with the front and rear of the car, but appears to be uninjured. |
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2 Sep 2004, 16:58 (Ref:1085002)
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Thankfully, he is unhurt. Is it just me, or does it seem like there have been an unusually high number of tyre blowups this year? Usually its the Michelins... but I guess Bridgestone also has these probs.
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2 Sep 2004, 17:07 (Ref:1085011)
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From ITV F1:
Schumacher took a while to get out of the car and had to spend a few minutes composing himself by the side of the track before returning to the pits. Sounds like a bad one. |
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2 Sep 2004, 17:11 (Ref:1085019)
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Thank god (and the safety rules) that a bad one these days means taking a few minutes to compose yourself.
A 200+ mph blowout at Monza is frightening stuff. |
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2 Sep 2004, 17:12 (Ref:1085021)
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It is accidents like that that may get Schumi to thinking retirement. He has led a charmed life in F1 and we have heard before that his wife would prefer he retire sooner rather than later. Ralf's recent experience adds to the possibility. Just a thought.
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2 Sep 2004, 17:15 (Ref:1085025)
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2 Sep 2004, 17:17 (Ref:1085026)
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I doubt Schumacher will retire still (I know he won't) but this has got to get him thinking.
Glad he's OK, he's a lucky, lucky man to escape that one! |
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2 Sep 2004, 17:34 (Ref:1085042)
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Re: Big shunt for Schumacher
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Fortunately he was not injured in this, but boy is his wife gonna be *............ This will be further fuel for FIA to want the cars slowed down (smaller engines anyone....) [EDIT: Weak autocensor dodge /EDIT] Last edited by Adam43; 2 Sep 2004 at 19:48. |
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2 Sep 2004, 18:37 (Ref:1085108)
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But cars going 220mph at Monza is nothing new, why all panic now?
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2 Sep 2004, 18:40 (Ref:1085112)
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Crashing at 220mph is different to "going 220mph".
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2 Sep 2004, 20:17 (Ref:1085186)
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SINGLE TYRE FORMULA
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2 Sep 2004, 20:31 (Ref:1085198)
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SOLID RUBBER SINGLE TYRE FORMULA!!!!! 
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2 Sep 2004, 20:40 (Ref:1085206)
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It was warning from the spirits: retire!
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2 Sep 2004, 20:44 (Ref:1085209)
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Excuse me. What's the excitement? Great he's thankfully escaped a big accident but.................... So what?
Don't mean to appear condescending or even Irreverent but please let's put some perspective on this. Apparently (and I missed the race) a lot of guys escaped seriously high speed blow outs in Belgium? Or am I missing something? His wife and family will be thinking twice? He will now think of retirement? Come on folks this is the real world. If he thinks of retirement because a tyre blew he wouldn't be world champ. Must be a weak news day. |
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2 Sep 2004, 20:57 (Ref:1085225)
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I'll bet it'll be on his mind at the moment though.
But then tomorrow he'll wake up without a care in the world (accompanied with sighs of derision from the wifey). |
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2 Sep 2004, 21:18 (Ref:1085263)
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2 Sep 2004, 21:27 (Ref:1085274)
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What argument?
The only fatal accident believed to have been caused by a tyre failure was Williamson, almost 30 years ago - and that was in a time of far less tyre competition. |
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2 Sep 2004, 22:50 (Ref:1085381)
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Mark Donohue was a tyre failure too, as I recall.
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3 Sep 2004, 00:13 (Ref:1085421)
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Blowout control/management system?
Has anyone considered, or is anyone aware of previous discussions or consideration of the tyre within tyre system like in the oval racing in the states, or even the emergency inserts (mules?) that I have been told are in WRC cars, or any other systems to give the drivers some kind of chance in the event of a blowout or puncture?
I don't know if the seppo's still use the dual tyre system; it was quite a few years ago that I last heard of it being used, but the rationale behind it seemed sound. The idea was that if the main carcass blows then the smaller (lower pressure) insert expands to becomes the main tyre and prevents the wheel rim from making contact with the track and attempts to prevent the car from running on two wheels like an assymetric motorcycle. It seems that they considered that some control was better than no control as was the case with Buttons Blowout causing the Minardi Mangle. If some kind of blowout control system was instituted as a mandatory safety feature then there would be no absolute disadvantage and, I assume, an across the field performance penatly due to the, supposedly, greater mass of the wheel/tyre combo leading to potentially longer braking zones/slower corner speeds? Eurosnob. |
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3 Sep 2004, 10:50 (Ref:1085756)
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Blimey, when they said side of the track I didnt think literally!
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=31023 |
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3 Sep 2004, 11:30 (Ref:1085787)
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I know it's not F1, but didn't someone die testing an Audi R8 (last year I think) because of a tyre failure? |
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3 Sep 2004, 11:37 (Ref:1085797)
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Although he'd said he wont retire a dozen times, it's these kind of things that would change one's mind....
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3 Sep 2004, 12:05 (Ref:1085834)
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Wishfull thinkin' Down F0rce?
Past events only proven that he was more determined to get back in the car again. But anything can happen. He could wake up one morning, spill his Orangejuice and decides that now is the time to quit while he is still ahead. Personaly i don't believe that an accident is the trigger for that. 99% of the People who wreck their cars buy a new one and drive again. And the don't get credit, money or fame for doing so. They also sit in relativly unsafer cars with no medical help every mile or so... I am not saying it can't happen, it is just very unlikely. |
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3 Sep 2004, 12:13 (Ref:1085842)
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Its almost like people want him to retire! IMHO that would devalue F1, unless he does it as soon as he feels in his guts that its the right time, which I expect would only happen when he's being consistently challenged for supremacy and losing the edge, not because of an accident.
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3 Sep 2004, 12:16 (Ref:1085844)
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I never said I wanted him to retire. I'm just saying that a 200MPH crash might make him think.
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