Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Single Seater Racing > Formula One
Reload this Page Alonso's pass
Register Gallery FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Home
« Previous Thread | Formula One | Next Thread »
Reply
Page 1 of 5 1 2345
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:38 (Ref:1970086)   #1
luke
Veteran
 
luke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
England
West Sussex, England
Posts: 7,263
luke should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridluke should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Alonso's pass
100% Alonso no fault. He was already ahead on the outside. For whatever reason if it was understeer on the damp track Massa drove into his side. His front right hit the side pod.

Ferrari really shouldn't have been annoyed at Fernando. Massa was basically driving him off the road. Sure he wanted to defend but he was too Leary imo and squeezing him too much.

If anyone is too blame imo it's Massa.
luke is offline  
__________________
The thrill from west hill
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:39 (Ref:1970089)   #2
Adam43
14th
1% Club
 
Adam43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
European Union
New Orleans
Posts: 43,954
Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!
er, racing. What else is there to say?
Adam43 is offline  
__________________
Brum brum
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:41 (Ref:1970093)   #3
Knowlesy
20KPINAL
 
Knowlesy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
Knowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Two people got close and a pass was made. Err....
Knowlesy is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:42 (Ref:1970096)   #4
ralf fan
Forum Host
Veteran
 
ralf fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
United Nations
Apartment No.203
Posts: 6,529
ralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Ferrari haven't said anything. ALonso's the one who has been complaining.

Racing IMO, fair and hard from both men.
ralf fan is offline  
__________________
A byte walks into a bar and orders a pint. Bartender asks him "What's wrong?" Byte says "Parity error." Bartender nods and says "Yeah, I thought you looked a bit off."
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:43 (Ref:1970097)   #5
Mr V
Veteran
 
Mr V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
England
The city of bridges (one day!)
Posts: 13,211
Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by luke

Ferrari really shouldn't have been annoyed at Fernando. Massa was basically driving him off the road. Sure he wanted to defend but he was too Leary imo and squeezing him too much.

If anyone is too blame imo it's Massa.

I feel there was no need for Fernando to get so upset personally.

He (FA) made a brilliant overtake, and Massa slid into him (a bit of understeer? thats what Martin Brundle thought it was).

Racing incident.
Mr V is offline  
__________________
That's so frickin uncool man!
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:45 (Ref:1970100)   #6
Super Hans
Veteran
 
Super Hans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
United Kingdom
Posts: 5,493
Super Hans is going for a new world record!Super Hans is going for a new world record!Super Hans is going for a new world record!Super Hans is going for a new world record!Super Hans is going for a new world record!Super Hans is going for a new world record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr V
I feel there was no need for Fernando to get so upset personally.

He (FA) made a brilliant overtake, and Massa slid into him (a bit of understeer? thats what Martin Brundle thought it was).
As I've said earlier, I think the cause of Alonso's anger was Massa's wild chop in turn one, just a few turns before the pass.
Super Hans is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:45 (Ref:1970101)   #7
Knowlesy
20KPINAL
 
Knowlesy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
Knowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Alonso was probably just pumped up a bit too much by the whole thing. That's life, he'll cool down I'm sure.

He has the win at least.
Knowlesy is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:48 (Ref:1970107)   #8
Mr V
Veteran
 
Mr V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
England
The city of bridges (one day!)
Posts: 13,211
Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Hans
As I've said earlier, I think the cause of Alonso's anger was Massa's wild chop in turn one, just a few turns before the pass.
Then why would Fernando be pointing so animatedly to the tyre marks Felipe left on his car?
Mr V is offline  
__________________
That's so frickin uncool man!
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:51 (Ref:1970111)   #9
Adam43
14th
1% Club
 
Adam43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
European Union
New Orleans
Posts: 43,954
Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Let the fans fan the flames of this one.
Adam43 is offline  
__________________
Brum brum
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:53 (Ref:1970117)   #10
Bononi
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
Bononi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location:
Deep in the Chaos Nation's countryside
Posts: 21,606
Bononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Alonso was upset because the touch... he showed that to the TV... Honestly if he thinks everybody should let him pass because he's faster and is the reigning champion he should retire then...
Bononi is offline  
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman
An' I'll show you somebody who will
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:53 (Ref:1970119)   #11
ralf fan
Forum Host
Veteran
 
ralf fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
United Nations
Apartment No.203
Posts: 6,529
ralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamAshmore
Let the fans fan the flames of this one.
Hey Alonso was the who put the lighter, blame him for the 300 page thread about to follow.
ralf fan is offline  
__________________
A byte walks into a bar and orders a pint. Bartender asks him "What's wrong?" Byte says "Parity error." Bartender nods and says "Yeah, I thought you looked a bit off."
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:56 (Ref:1970122)   #12
maltafan
Veteran
 
maltafan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Malta
obviously, Malta
Posts: 588
maltafan has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
I think that Alonso had no fault there.

After the race, Italian Zanardi said that it was a great overtaking, with Massa going onto him after the curve. And hearing that from an Italian, has more wieght.
maltafan is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:59 (Ref:1970125)   #13
Abbie44
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
United Kingdom
East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 54
Abbie44 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
it was unavoidable and a decent pass!
Abbie44 is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 14:59 (Ref:1970127)   #14
Fletcher
Rookie
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Finland
Posts: 53
Fletcher should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bononi
Alonso was upset because the touch... he showed that to the TV... Honestly if he thinks everybody should let him pass because he's faster and is the reigning champion he should retire then...
As I mentioned in the other thread, I think he had a reason to be upset. In the exit of the first corner Massa took a very defensive line which in my opinion was too harsh. When Alonso passed he left very little room when the cars touched, although it could be argued he had understeer there.
Fletcher is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 15:02 (Ref:1970129)   #15
TWRv12
Veteran
 
TWRv12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,991
TWRv12 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridTWRv12 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by ralf fan
Ferrari haven't said anything. ALonso's the one who has been complaining.

Racing IMO, fair and hard from both men.
Thought the Ferrari mob were waving their handbags in the pitlane Great to see Alonso on fire.
TWRv12 is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 15:05 (Ref:1970132)   #16
Bononi
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
Bononi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location:
Deep in the Chaos Nation's countryside
Posts: 21,606
Bononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Problem is... they're racing. We complain there's no overtake, and when there is everybody wants to find who's in fault or consider one too wild or the other too chicken ????

Come on, let's watch more of that good stuff !
Bononi is offline  
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman
An' I'll show you somebody who will
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 15:06 (Ref:1970134)   #17
Sodemo
Veteran
 
Sodemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
United Kingdom
Solihull, West Mids, UK
Posts: 11,291
Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bononi
Alonso was upset because the touch... he showed that to the TV... Honestly if he thinks everybody should let him pass because he's faster and is the reigning champion he should retire then...
I don't believe thats what he thought.

I just think that he doesn't expect to be run into when making a legitimate pass for the lead.

Alonso was already ahead and had the inside line for the next turn.

I thought it was fine though really, but I believe Massa was to entirely to blame for the touch of wheels.
Sodemo is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 15:06 (Ref:1970135)   #18
roachy101
Racer
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 361
roachy101 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
a moment of brilliance from alonso. don't knwo why there should be any complaints, its just racing
roachy101 is offline  
__________________
moments forever faded
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 15:09 (Ref:1970137)   #19
Knowlesy
20KPINAL
 
Knowlesy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
Knowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
It's a tight place to make a pass really, Massa was always going to slide up the racetrack to some extent.

It was good hard racing in the end and a delight to watch. Nobody was punted off the track or put onto the grass.
Knowlesy is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 15:09 (Ref:1970138)   #20
Datsun
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
United States
Rhode Island
Posts: 39
Datsun should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Seemed to me MASSA was the one complaining. Alonso's pointing at the donut seemed to be fairly good-natured fooling around, obviously he was pretty damn happy after the race. Massa's face was totally dark, clearly he thought that despite being much faster, Alonso should've just held station for 2nd.

It was a great battle, but Massa should be more gracious in defeat.
Datsun is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 15:10 (Ref:1970141)   #21
Bononi
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
Bononi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location:
Deep in the Chaos Nation's countryside
Posts: 21,606
Bononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Yeah, right.

That's great ! Finally the curtain has fallen. Now we have a real fight out there ! And why I'm not surprised ? Alonso as the one to make it.
Compained at Renault, complaining at McLaren and now in the race.
I think he's right, it's good to know that Massa won't play second fiddle to none... I just hope that at some point Hamilton does the same, and we all know who's the bad guy...
Bononi is offline  
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman
An' I'll show you somebody who will
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 15:12 (Ref:1970146)   #22
Bononi
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
Bononi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location:
Deep in the Chaos Nation's countryside
Posts: 21,606
Bononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by Datsun
Seemed to me MASSA was the one complaining. Alonso's pointing at the donut seemed to be fairly good-natured fooling around, obviously he was pretty damn happy after the race. Massa's face was totally dark, clearly he thought that despite being much faster, Alonso should've just held station for 2nd.

It was a great battle, but Massa should be more gracious in defeat.
Watch the tape again mate, and check the interviews...
Bononi is offline  
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman
An' I'll show you somebody who will
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 15:15 (Ref:1970149)   #23
Sodemo
Veteran
 
Sodemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
United Kingdom
Solihull, West Mids, UK
Posts: 11,291
Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!
I think Massa was just upset that he was passed to be honest, Alonso did a fantastic move, then pulled away from Massa at a hell of a rate.
Sodemo is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 15:16 (Ref:1970150)   #24
Knowlesy
20KPINAL
 
Knowlesy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
Knowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameKnowlesy will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Perhaps, yes. Losing a race like that has to hurt the pride.
Knowlesy is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2007, 15:27 (Ref:1970161)   #25
Bononi
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
Bononi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location:
Deep in the Chaos Nation's countryside
Posts: 21,606
Bononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBononi will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Certainly yes but the swearing was not because of this...
Bononi is offline  
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman
An' I'll show you somebody who will
Quote
Home
« Previous Thread | Formula One | Next Thread »
Reply
Page 1 of 5 1 2345

Home
« Previous Thread | Formula One | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Alonso's celebration? Dan Fielden Formula One 30 10 Oct 2006 16:21
Will your MSA pass, pass the test ? RIXGE Marshals Forum 10 28 Jul 2006 00:21
Alonso's Dance?? billyblister Formula One 33 24 May 2006 05:57
What is Alonso's condition? bart_jacobs Formula One 54 9 Apr 2003 14:06
Alonso's first race with Renault RubberD Formula One 36 10 Mar 2003 15:46


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:44.

TenTenths Motorsport - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.