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Old 5 Jun 2001, 04:59 (Ref:101342)   #26
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Crash Test should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridCrash Test should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
But have a look at the accidents.

Radisich on Skaife- they were absolutely stuck together, Skiafe hit the brakes and speared off. He had been viciously blocking for some time....so they decided that everthing even out in the end.

Bright on Seton- Brain fade

Lowndes on Skaife- the two hardest racers out there going for absolute glory....it was do or die, sadly Lowndes died...

There were a few ifs and buts at the last hairpin....but there always has been, even in the F1 days.

That Saturday race was fantastic...a shame you guys didn't get the other 2 1/4 hours of it.
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Old 5 Jun 2001, 05:00 (Ref:101345)   #27
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Crash Test should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridCrash Test should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
What about Nige?

There was carnage long before Warrick came on the scene...
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Old 5 Jun 2001, 05:10 (Ref:101347)   #28
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mac should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridmac should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridmac should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Crash makes a very good point here Craig.

I remember watching BTCC to get my fix of shunts and crazyness. And it wasn't just Derek. I saw more stupity in that series than I've ever seen in the V8's.

BTW, the V8's are hairier than any other touring car in the world.

Plus, touring cars have never been so prominent in this country. This leads to huge pressure from teams and sponsors, and there is greater desperation on the part of the drivers.

I'd much prefer the drivers actually having a go at each other and making a few mistakes, than just sitting behind each other for the whole race (this latter model is what Avesco prefers).
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Old 5 Jun 2001, 07:52 (Ref:101368)   #29
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Additionally, the Adelaide event is over two days, so the whole field can be prepared and ready for another crunch session on the second day... more opportunities for both crashes and filming them.
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Old 5 Jun 2001, 10:49 (Ref:101400)   #30
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And due to their near space-frame construction, you can write the car off on one day, and it can be straight the next....it really does make it hard to write off a car these days- even Craig Lowndes roll over car from 99 could have been repaired, but it was just as easy to build a new car..
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marcus has a real shot at the podium!marcus has a real shot at the podium!marcus has a real shot at the podium!marcus has a real shot at the podium!
thats right ..and correct me if im wrong but wayne wakefield's (bow down before him..we're not worthy , we're not worthy ) car from last year I believe is actually John trimbole's old Daily planet/bottle magic car that tomas Mazera flipped with such style at bathurst in 97.

whatever the result is ..thats the way we race out here and according to drivers that have been overseas and come back home the racing here is more user friendly by drivers actually giving some room to race.

drivers quotes not mine
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What an excuse! Here's a chance for me to post something from long ago, and those reading it should look for the highlighted references that give me the excuse...

WINTON, 1979 – a true story told in verse

"Now listen here, John," said Larry, forlorn
that he couldn't leap in for his cause
at the sideshow at Winton, the politics borne
of the confronting of cars of two laws.

It would grow in excitement as the weekend progressed,
and the fur it would surely fly thickly,
as the fives and Atlantic men put to the test
their aims, which I'll tell you of quickly.

It was "Rose City" time at that place in the South,
where the bitumen winds around tightest,
and the thundering roar of the Chevys was loathe
to give in to the Ralt, which was lightest.

Paul England was there, in his best stirring mood,
But his Chevron was giving him trouble.
Bespectacled Larry, though, hurled all this brood
as usual, as if on the double.

Jon Davo moved in with the new A F One crowd,
determined to make his own mark.
(Not hard for him, as his talking is loud -
a dog he don't need for its bark!)

Signs were put up to show all that came
the pit spots for all the top cars -
with the best spots reserved for the five thousands lame.
Then Paul said: "Let's fix this farce!"

He'd been camped there all week, in a spot that was marked
for a Lola equipped with an eight,
next to Graham McRae, who became very narked,
As also was Seaton, his mate.

For a musical sign game had Paul England played,
including Smith's Ralt just for fun.
John was given the spot Graham's sign was displayed,
Right up alongside the Chevron.

An argument flared up, it needn't be said,
between Graham and John (still recalling
that rash moves at Repco had near left him dead,
at Sandown, where fives were all falling.)

"TOO OLD," was the cry that came from Smith spry,
we could see that the Kiwi was shattered,
then Lee Seaton jumped in, fists ready to fly,
it was young John who almost was splattered!

The "Cowangie Kid" had to break up the fight,
at great risk to his sole pair of glasses;
So obvious was Mister England's delight
that he came out unmarked from these passes.

The next step, of course, was Larry's retort
when told that officials would fine him -
for having no licence, ("never been bought")
Of a frame-up it was much reminding.

Russell Lanyon said: "Yes, I'll give you a note
to tell them that CAMS got your dollars."
But later on - "No!" was the message he wrote -
the working out doesn't need scholars.

For big brother John (and his mates with the big cars),
had made Russell retreat from his pact -
go back on his word for these childish beggars -
it was such a despicable act!

Larry stood for his rights, his feet planted firmly,
and insisted his money would stay.
"I don't care," he said, "how you wriggle your wormy
way out of this mess, I won't pay!"

And so they relented, as Larry kept shouting
"This just doesn't happen in Britain!"

The compromise called for an end to this doubting,
by which deal he wasn't so smitten.

Then on into the night time, when the Mayor failed to show,
and so left them alone, to themselves,
so by the end of the evening (with shouting from Davo),
they near woke up all Hoot Gibson's elves.

Then, putting an end to the chaos he'd started,
Jon calmed them all down in the dark.
"We'll display our wares well," he now imparted,
"For our dough!" was his final remark.

The parade went like clockwork, impressing the throng
lining the streets to observe.
An outward appearance of a formula strong -
nobody showing their sore nerve.

And the race, yes the race, like fury and fast,
Thrilling the crowd and the viewers.
John Bowe led from Alfie, but it couldn't last,
Smith next in the Ralt so much newer.

It astounded the crowd that a car of that size
could press hard on Alfie - their hero -
but push him it did, while Bowe looked so wise,
and spun back to fourth - almost zero.

Back in the field Paul Hamilton lay
ninth in an Elfin so aged,
Until Butcher came up to a lapping game play
and chose the wrong side, it is wagered.

The Lola was out as it speared off the track,
the argument later was friendly.
Rob then was more certain of how he should act
when waved through on roads that are bendy.

Smith got beside Alfie, a few times at least
and set fastest lap in the trying,
but the power of the Chev, oh, such a beast
left him each time, almost crying.

So the win was Costanzo's, again out in front,
with the little cars filling three places
before Bowe came along, now bearing the brunt
for the damage he'd done for no aces.

As Hamilton finished (it is quietly said),
Smith's crew gave him great accolades,
'xcept the car he had tangled was the wrong Lola, red,
still left in the Winton grass blades.

But it still wasn't over, or not at least
till conspiracies 'mong all the CAMS men
had worn out their spirits and had all their feast
at the cost of the little-car men.

"Let's pull the thing down, and make sure it's right,"
said Russell Lanyon at last.
But despite all the sweat, Larry reached a new height,
and he gave him o-o-oh such a blast.

"Now show me your name in this programme I hold,
in the scrutineer's list just for preference!"
But his name wasn't there, so Russell was told:
"Get out, or I'll show you the difference!"

The programme did name, among others, Mick Ronke -
"Sec. of the Meeting," it said,
But still unimpressed, Larry was cranky.
"There's not a 'scrute's' tag on his head!"

The poor scrutineer, under orders rebounding
seemed to favour young Larrikin's tones.
But in the end, Perkins notwithstanding,
he pulled the cars down to their bones.

They were legal of course, and who would doubt that,
so's the action that Paul England's taking
Against Davo, but then, we'll not mention that,
for sub-judice laws we'd be breaking.

Now years have gone by, most forget this weekend
Even Larry, who drove Elfins later -
And the argument's over, for others contend
new issues o'er tintops and "data."

The Gold Star limps on in the shadow of tourers
costing millions to put on the track.
Oh, for the days of the open-wheeled furores,
Days that - sadly - we'll never get back.

Ray Bell


Perhaps I should help those who don't know the players:

Larry - Perkins, ex-Surtees & BRM F1
Paul England - engine builder and car owner, also raced in England briefly and at the German GP
Davo - Jon Davison, son of Lex (four times Australian GP winner) and
presently runs Sandown Park
John and Russell Lanyon - racing identities tied to organisers of the
time, also involved with Ansett Team Elfin
Lee Seaton - Graham McRae's sponsor
Hoot Gibson - old Winton stalwart, helped keep the circuit going for
many years.
Gold Star - Australian Drivers Championship
Rob Butcher - 'privateer' Lola T332 owner
Paul Hamilton - 'privateer' F/Atlantic owner
Alf Costanzo - top line driver of F5000 and later FAtl...
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Old 6 Jun 2001, 08:34 (Ref:101693)   #33
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Marcus, you're right. WW's car from last year was the old Trimbole Mezera car that rolled at Bathurst years ago.

WW's car from 1999 was the ex-Heffernan Price Attack car. You might remember it was written off at Bathurst '99 when Wayne's co-driver Dean canto was turned into the wall at the Cutting.

Well, after 12 months! at the fix it shop, the car is just about ready to race again. I'm very, very keen to see him race it at Lakeside in a couple of weeks.
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