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Old 6 Jun 2001, 14:54 (Ref:101856)   #1
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DC to use LC !!

Oh, brother! DC stated that he will use the 'lunched control' in Canada. There are probably people making book on the odds of it working or not. Hey, anybody else notice the similarity of "should I stay or should I go" between the Launch Control and Adrian Newey? There's getting to be too much coconut in the macaroons!
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Old 6 Jun 2001, 15:09 (Ref:101868)   #2
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Beaqring in mind that his stall on the grid in Monaco had NOTHING TO DO WITH LC WHATSOEVER, of course.
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Old 6 Jun 2001, 17:54 (Ref:101936)   #3
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Just to add to this.

At the moment it is TAG who supply McLaren with their electronics. its not unconceivable that they write up the software for their LC system.

But guess what other team TAG supply. yes, jordan.

Seems like TAG have got it all wrong.

So to go further, it looks like Honda are not supplying Jordan with electronics but are supplying BAR.

Eddie won't like that.

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Old 6 Jun 2001, 18:05 (Ref:101937)   #4
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either TAG's got it all wrong, or those damn Ferrarian's are paying TAG even more to get things all mucked up. Damn those conspiring mobsters!
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Old 6 Jun 2001, 18:51 (Ref:101951)   #5
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Stop putting conspiricy ideas in our heads. Will ya?.
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Old 6 Jun 2001, 21:03 (Ref:102018)   #6
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If LC fails McLaren again there going to look like real amateurs I,am sure Ron has the software engineers working flat out on the problem , I hope when DC says all the problems have been sorted they REALY HAVE BEEN THIS TIME .....
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Old 6 Jun 2001, 21:37 (Ref:102030)   #7
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THR has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
i think you will find TAG supply nearly all the grid with BASIC ECUs
the teams write the code that the ecu then uses.
so it is nothing to do with tag.
its the team.
the ecu is just a programable box.
u can program it how u like.

DC is right to use it. its faster. and it will be increasingly more reliable.
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Old 6 Jun 2001, 22:38 (Ref:102039)   #8
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Will if I were DC. I wouldn't trust a LC system that has failed me twice, Mika and both the Jordans in the same race. I think he should get rid of it. I'm positive he would be leading the championship by now had it not been for the incidences of Barcelona and Monaco.
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Old 6 Jun 2001, 22:43 (Ref:102041)   #9
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Duke: I am not sure but DC's problem at Monaco was not LC related.

Wasn't it something to do with the clutch.

PS: I'm not sure on that one though.

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Old 6 Jun 2001, 22:59 (Ref:102049)   #10
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Yes, lovley, hmm, brillaint, very good. LC HAD NOTHIG TO WITH THE STALL AT MONACOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR THE FINAL TIME!!!!!!!!!!! IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED REGARDLESS OFF LC/TC WHATEVER!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRGGGGHHH!!!!
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Old 7 Jun 2001, 03:51 (Ref:102109)   #11
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Tristan just calm down will ya?. If I am misinformed about the Monaco incident then I apologise. But really, there's no reason loose your temper.

To quote the words of Bart Simpson, Don't have a cow man!.
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Old 7 Jun 2001, 04:47 (Ref:102111)   #12
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So Tristan, exactly why did the Macaroon stall then?
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Old 7 Jun 2001, 08:17 (Ref:102138)   #13
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so where did u read it was the clutch?

the clutch IS part of the TC system u know!!!!!
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Old 7 Jun 2001, 08:24 (Ref:102139)   #14
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Clutch? Who mentioned the clutch? If it was the clutch then as THR says, it's controlled by the electronics at the start.
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Old 8 Jun 2001, 18:57 (Ref:102652)   #15
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...phew. Sorry. I've calmed down. I've had my rant. I'm sorry to all those who have felt my wrath. I'm just a bit tense.

DC wouldn't have used LC on the practice start, he would have turned it off to lay down some rubber. He, like everyone else, would only use the unreliable TC at the race start, he wouldn't risk it twice.

As to whether it was TC, well that's a different story. I don't actually know why he stalled, probably an electronic glith in the TC that burned the clutch out, or something similar.

Anyway, now I am calm again. The sun is out, and so is William Hague (bugger).
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Old 9 Jun 2001, 08:24 (Ref:102813)   #16
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I thought DC was quoted as saying it wasn't LC, it was the engine management software.
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Old 9 Jun 2001, 10:01 (Ref:102843)   #17
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DC wouldn't have used LC on the practice start, he would have turned it off to lay down some rubber. He, like everyone else, would only use the unreliable TC at the race start, he wouldn't risk it twice.
I *think* at least DC has been using launch control on the dummy grid (not sure about Mika though)...DC's stall at Spain was attributed to using LC (he applied throttle at 50%, not 100%, and the system fell over. Great coding guys ;P ).

My theory as to why LC is being used on the dummy grid is that perhaps the McLaren/TAG LC system needs a final calibration, re grip levels etc...perhaps the McLaren system is more pernickety than the others (Ferrari and Williams do light up their tyres, for example). Can't remember if I saw Mika lighting up or not though.
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