Moto GP: A control tyre rule?

[SALEEN S7R]

Just been reading this article http://www.crash.net/uk/en/news_view...d=6&nid=101204 and to me I could see a one tyre rule working, and working well. People laughed when WSBK adopted the format, and it has made the racing closer than ever, sure theres a few downsides to having a single control tyre in the series, but it does put more emphasis on the rider and the team, rather than the tyre supplier. IMO theres good and bad things that come with a control tyre, but the good things slightly out weight the bad IMO.

What do u think? hrug:

[BootsOntheSide]

Dreadful idea in my opinion. That article's really badly reasoned - other than Tamada's bike, none of the non-Michelin teams in MotoGP are in any real position to win races - Suzuki and Kawasaki have been helped, not hindered, by Bridgestones at many tracks. Foggy Petronas haven't moved forward notably this year, despite that article's assertion.

WSBK chose contorl tyres for all the wrong reasons - Pirelli needed a chance to supply tyres, and Flammini accepted the chance out fo Italian pride. They weren't even spec tyres - Foggy had special variations developed to suit their bike, which surely defeats the whole object.

If, as suggested there, it's 'unfair' that Team KR can't get Michelin tyres, it's surely also unfair that they can't get Honda bikes or Rossi riding for them. There has to be some level of genuine competition.

[chunder]

Totally diagree with you there, I think that control tyres would be a superb idea. Yes O agree taht teams like FP1 and the like have not moved forward, but then neitehr have Ducati and Ten Kate stood still. It puts everyone on a level playing field and I think it would be a brilliant idea.
I mean, c'mon it as already practically the cae in the lower classes and what it would hopefully get rid of is this farcical notion of developing a tyre for one rider aka Schumacher in F1.
Hodgson has saiud that when he first rode the 999 on Michelins he had 20 different fronts to try., that can't be good for anyone.
I would also say that Kawasaki and Suzuki have got where they are with good engineering and a decent tyre, they would be no better or worse on Michelins coz they wouldnt get the best ones as they go to Max,Vale and Sete. And this is the situaiton you need to banish.
I remember years ago McWilliams needed a particular Michie front and they said he couldnt have it coz Mick hadnt made his mind up which tyre he wanted yet, what tosh.
Simply put, the racing would be better as it has been all year in WSB than GP and the lesser teams would only have themselves to blame for poor performance. Best riders would still win, as thye did in WSB and the teams could concentarte a little more in setup and development instead of tyres.

[Hazza]

Okay, I'm with Boots, on this one.
It could be a good Idea except for
a) its just not Grand Prix Racing...Grand Prix Racing old chap.
b) The current situation is fine as it is, but it could be bad If you get a Schumi/Ferrari/Bridgestone combo, or Rossi/SupadupaYamaha/Bridgestone combo.
c) The WSBK was quite abit about bias towards Italy, and realy, If I had a choice between spec Pirellis and a field full of bikes other than Ducati's (and because of the high price of the Italian rubber, no practically no Wildcards) then I wouldn't pick the tires.
d) To my knowledge there is no Spanish racing tyre

[BootsOntheSide]

Obviously MotoGP has much less heritage for Wildcards, so that's not an issue in itself (and in any case, it wasn't so much the cost of Pirellis that put people off - it was more the difficulty of having exclusive deals to run their regular tyres).

If there was only one tyre supplier, they would still need people to help them develop reliabile tyres - those riders and bikes would gain an advantage on them by default.

As it stands, MotoGP has a situation where the best tyre one weekend won't necccessarily be the best at the next track they go to - which makes for healthy competition. If Dunlop were forced out of the series, WCM and KR would have to pay more to get their tyres - I'm sure that if they could afford Bridgestone or Michelin tyres they wqould already have them this year.

[chunder]

I think you are right there boots but the trouble is if WCM and KR were with eitehr of the other two tyre companies then they get the very basic customer tyres not the special stuff that Vale,Sete and Max etcget built for them. They think it is far better to try and develop a relationship with Dunlop, which if the KTM deal comes through might work for them coz at the moment if you put Vale or Sete on eitehr bike they would not make the top 10, so any tyre is not gonna make much difference.
Amused by Hazza's Spanish tyre comment also, very good!
Have you noticed aswell guys that since Dorna's link up with BSB that Haydon,Ellison have got replacement rides, can't think of that happeneing 5 years ago!

[f1manoz]

I don't agree with the control tyre issue. IMO the situation is perfect as it stands.

[racer69]

It's bad enough they are in World Superbikes, lets not have them in MotoGP, especially as it is the 'Development' side of bike racing. If the rest of the bike can be developed, why not the different tyre brands.