Silly Season

[QuickSilver]

Back by popular demand, it's Silly Season 2006 ...

JB to Williams (without BMW engines)
DC or RB to BAR (and what about AD)
Sato?
Heidfeld to Sauber BMW
Massa to Ferrari

any other thoughts?

[DKGandBH]

Webber to Renault
Kimi to Ferrari

DKGandBH

[Menelaos]

Kimi to Ferrari? As number 2? Behind MS? I don't think any good driver would do that, Alonso, Kimi, JPM would never go there as #2.

[Silk Cut Jaguar]

Originally Posted by DKGandBH

Webber to Renault
Kimi to Ferrari

DKGandBH

Webber won't go to Renault, Flav wouldn't have his two star drivers go against each other, at least, not yet. Alonso could considerably damage Webber's stock which in turn would mean less money in Flav's pocket in the long run.

I bet Webber is in a Williams for the next season or two.

[Hazard]

Team: Ferrari
Driver 1: Fisichella
Driver 2: Massa
Engine: Ferrari

Team: Williams
Driver 1: Webber
Driver 2: Button
Engine: Cosworth

Team: Renault
Driver 1: Alonso
Driver 2: Barrichello
Engine: Renault

Team: McLaren
Driver 1: Raikkonen
Driver 2: Wurz
Engine: Mercedes

Team: BAR
Driver 1: Coulthard
Driver 2: Sato
Engine: Honda

Team: Sauber
Driver 1: Heidfeld
Driver 2: Priaulx
Engine: BMW

Team: Jordan/Midland
Driver 1: Montagny
Driver 2: Zlobin
Engine: Toyota

Team: Red Bull Racing
Driver 1: Liuzzi
Driver 2: Speed
Engine: Ferrari

Team: Toyota
Driver 1: Trulli
Driver 2: R Schumacher
Engine: Toyota

Team: Minardi
Driver 1: Karthikeyan
Driver 2: $1.0m
Engine: cheapest

Drivers bench/retired from 05: M Schumacher, J Villeneuve, J Montoya, T Monteiro, C Klien, C Albers, P Freisacher

Tis only silly of course

[mac]

My WILD and long range guess is on the following:

RENAULT
1) Fernando Alonso
2) Giancarlo Fisichella

McLAREN
3) Kimi Raikkonen
4) Juan Pablo Montoya

WILLIAMS COSWORTH/HONDA/TOYOTA/BMW
5) Mark Webber
6) Jenson Button

TOYOTA
7) Jarno Trulli
8) Ralf Schumacher

FERRARI
9) Michael Schumacher
10) Felipe Massa

RED BULL FERRARI
11) David Coulthard
12) Christian Klien

BAR HONDA
14) Rubens Barrichello
15) Takuma Sato

SAUBER BMW
16) Nick Heidfeld
17) Anthony Davidson

MIDLAND TOYOTA
18) Franck Montagny
19) Vitantonio Liuzzi

MINARDI COSWORTH
20) Who Knows
21) Who Else Knows

[Gerben24]

I think the biggest question should be what engine Williams are going to use, or better yet, what engine will Williams be able to use.

I don't think a team like Williams wants to be second fiddle, so that would already leave out Honda and Toyota. Honda have already said that it's almost to late to start preparations to supply a second team in 2006. I think Toyota has a contract with Midlands, so once again Williams is missing the boat there.

What would it mean if Williams goes for Cosworth? Are those the engines RBR are using at the moment? Isn't it true that Minardi are also using Cosworth engines? I know that Minardi have said that they are not going to use V8 engines next year. Is this because they can not afford to come up with a new chassis for a V8 engine or is this because Cosworth can't come up with a V8? If this is the case, will Williams have to drive with V10 engines as well? I don't think Jenson Button would like to drive for Williams then...

[Skam85]

FERRARI-
M Schumacher
F Massa

WILLIAMS-
M Webber
J Button

MCLAREN-
K Raikkonen
J P Montoya

RENAULT-
F Alonso
G Fisichella

BAR-
T Sato
D Coulthard

SAUBER-
N Heidfeld
J Villeneuve

RED BULL-
C Klien
R Barrichello

TOYOTA-
R Schumacher
J Trulli

MIDLAND-
T Monteiro
F Montagny

MINARDI-
C Albers
H Kovalienen

[the_royksopp]

It'd be nice if people could state a bit why they think what they think .

I'll do one later this weekend .

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by Gerben24

I think the biggest question should be what engine Williams are going to use, or better yet, what engine will Williams be able to use.

What would it mean if Williams goes for Cosworth? Are those the engines RBR are using at the moment? Isn't it true that Minardi are also using Cosworth engines? I know that Minardi have said that they are not going to use V8 engines next year. Is this because they can not afford to come up with a new chassis for a V8 engine or is this because Cosworth can't come up with a V8? If this is the case, will Williams have to drive with V10 engines as well?

I think Minardi are the only team asking for the V10 concession.

Originally Posted by Gerben24

I don't think Jenson Button would like to drive for Williams then...

Good points but (and I stand to be corrected) I understand Cosworth has already developed its V8 (and is looking for a team) The last bit is based on RBR going the Ferrari route.

FWIW I can't see Fisi in a Ferari but I can see him returning to Sauber and then it would be Heidfeld/Fisi.

FERRARI-Ferrari
M Schumacher (Mickey isn't going to give up next year).
M Webber (Mark will be looking to go up against the best).

WILLIAMS-Cosworth
J Button (Williams already own him).
R Barrichello (A good reliable bet for a team in transition-See RBR 2005).

MCLAREN-Mercedes
K Raikkonen (No words needed)
J P Montoya (Ditto)

RENAULT-Renault
F Alonso (2005 WDC isn't going anywhere)
F Massa (impressing with every race and would push Alonso).
Another spin on this. 2007 Benetton Cosworth?

BAR-Honda
T Sato (Honda daren't lose him)
D Coulthard (would put that "big team" experience into a resurgent BAR).

SAUBER-BMW
N Heidfeld (Becoming BMW's golden boy).
G Fisichella (Peter likes him and he would be good value for money).

RED BULL-Ferrari
C Klien (Growing in confidence and reliable).
A Davidson (Appeals to the Red Bull demographic and is a real racer).

TOYOTA-Toyota
R Schumacher (Liked for his feedback and will settle in but a slow starter).
J Trulli (Giving his best. What more can a team ask).

MIDLAND-?????????
T Monteiro (Who else would be willing to race for them?).
F Montagny (Might get some backing from French companies).

MINARDI-Cosworth V10
TBA
N Karthikyan (He needs another learning year and would bring much needed finance from India).

[Mark Webber]

a few changes not all for the good IMHO but this is F1




FERRARI-Ferrari
M Schumacher (Mickey isn't going to give up next year, cream rises to the top ).
F Massa (he will only be here for a short time ).

WILLIAMS-Toyota(sharp fall down the grid install)
M Webber ( will realise this is not the team to be in hot tip renault bound in 07)
J Button (Williams already own him).

MCLAREN-Mercedes
K Raikkonen ( 2005 WDC No words needed)
J P Montoya (on the outer )

RENAULT-Renault
F Alonso (isn't going anywhere)
F Montagny (Might get some backing from French companies).

BAR-Honda
T Sato (Honda daren't lose him)
D Coulthard (back in a "big budget team" where he belongs).

SAUBER-BMW (williams stuff up is saubers gain)
N Heidfeld (Becoming BMW's golden boy).
J Villeneuve (will earn his way to stay in 07).

RED BULL-Mercedes(it will happen)
C Klien (Growing in confidence and reliable).
S. Speed (USA market to good to pass up ).

TOYOTA-Toyota
R Schumacher (will lead by example).
J Trulli (Giving his best. What more can a team ask).

MIDLAND-Toyota
T Monteiro (Who else would be willing to race for them?).
J Briscoe (Toyota's long serving junour stands up and he the drive ).

MINARDI-Cosworth V10
C Albers ( has done more than enough to stay where else can he go )
N Karthikyan (He needs another learning year and would bring much needed finance from India).

[f1_carzy]

My take on the silly season

FERRARI-Ferrari
M Schumacher (Mickey isn't going to give up next year, cream rises to the top ).
F Massa (paving the road for post-MS era).

WILLIAMS-Toyota(will make BMW look stupid)
J Button (Williams already own him)
M Webber (will realise Flav's Renault only option left, if Flav still around)

MCLAREN-Mercedes
K Raikkonen ( 2005 WDC No words needed)
J P Montoya ( serious contender for 2006 WDC)

RENAULT-Renault
F Alonso (isn't going anywhere)
F Montagny (next scapegoat after Trulli and Fisi)

BAR-Honda
Barrichello (do a DC for BAR)
T Sato (Honda daren't lose him, but will share drives with Ant)
A Davidson (will share drives with Sato like RBR this year)

SAUBER-BMW (BMW might be in for a shock and a looooong wait for a win)
N Heidfeld (Becoming BMW's golden boy)
G Fisichella (would be an asset, belongs here)

RED BULL-Ferrari
C Klien (Growing in confidence and reliable).
S. Speed (USA market too good to pass up )

TOYOTA-Toyota
J Trulli (Giving his best. What more can a team ask)
R Schumacher (too costly to break contract, so will be still in)

MIDLAND-Toyota
T Monteiro (Who else would be willing to race for them?).
J Briscoe (Toyota's long serving junour stands up and he the drive ).

MINARDI-Cosworth V10
C Albers ( has done more than enough to stay where else can he go )
N Karthikyan (He needs another learning year and would bring much needed finance from India).

[mabs_nsx]

Team: Ferrari
Driver 1: Michael Schumacher
Driver 2: Rubens Barrichello
Engine: Ferrari

Team: Williams
Driver 1: Mark Webber
Driver 2: Nick Heidfeld
Engine: Cosworth, Toyota or Honda (Honda very unlikely)

Team: Renault
Driver 1: Fernando Alonso
Driver 2: Giancarlo Fisichella
Engine: Renault

Team: McLaren
Driver 1: Kimi Raikkonen
Driver 2: Juan Pablo Montoya
Engine: Mercedes

Team: BAR
Driver 1: Jenson Button
Driver 2: Takuma Sato
Engine: Honda

Team: Sauber
Driver 1: Jacques Villeneuve
Driver 2: Felipe Massa
Engine: BMW

Team: Midland
Driver 1: Anthony Davidson
Driver 2: Franck Montagny
Engine: Toyota or Mercedes

Team: Red Bull Racing
Driver 1: David Coulthard
Driver 2: Christian Klien
Engine: Ferrari

Team: Toyota
Driver 1: Jarno Trulli
Driver 2: Ralf Schumacher
Engine: Toyota

Team: Minardi
Driver 1: Christijan Albers
Driver 2: Tiago Monteiro
Engine: Cosworth (V10)

Team: Dabai (Very unlikely)
Driver 1: Alexander Wurz
Driver 2: Pedro de la Rosa
Engine: Mercedes


Team: Preston (Very unlikely)
Driver 1: Antonio Pizzonia
Driver 2: Nico Rosberg
Engine: ????

[pD F1]

Ferrari: Michael Schumacher, Rubens Barrichello
(Test Driver(s) Luca Badoer, Marc Gene)

Williams: Mark Webber, Jenson Button
(Test Drivers - Ryan Briscoe, Scott Speed)

McLaren: Kimi Raikkonen, Juan Montoya
(Alex Wurz, Pedro De La Rosa)

Renault: Fernando Alonso, Nick Heidfeld
(Franc Montagny)

BAR: Anthony Davidson, David Coulthard
(Gianmaria Bruni)

Red Bull Racing: Christian Klien, Vitantonio Liuzzi
(Nelson Piquet Jr)

Toyota: Jarno Trulli, Ralf Schumacher
(Olivier Panis, Ricardo Zonta)

Sauber: Giancarlo Fisichella, Felipe Massa
(Timo Glock)

Midland: Takuma Sato, N. Karthikeyan
(Ralph Firman, Allen McNish)

Minardi: Antonio Pizzonia, Justin Wilson
(Jos Verstappen, Alex Yoong?)

[beau1]

oh no not the silly season
M.Schumacher to Minardi

[Mr V]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

RENAULT-Renault

Another spin on this. 2007 Benetton Cosworth?

Is this a typo? I honestly can't see the Benetton family buying back the team!

[Peter Mallett]

Well then someone else. With the head of Renault counting those beans who knows?

[f1manoz]

Same

Ferrari, McLaren, Renault

If Williams lose BMW to Sauber, then Heidfeld may be taken with BMW, who will then replace either JV or Massa. Button will go to Williams to partner Webber, while DC could then move across from RBR to BAR to partner Sato. As for RBR, Klien/Liuzzi will stay with Scott Speed drafted in as No. 2 due to the as yet untapped US market.

Really, Williams-BMW hold the keys to the drivers transfer market for this season, simply because change as McLaren, Ferrari and Renault is not particularly expected.

[karimbo]

Here we go...

Ferrari
1) Michael Schumacher (he's like God at Maranello)
2) Felipe Massa (his personal manager is Nicolas Todt, son of Jean and has experience at Ferrari)

McLaren
1) Kimi (Ron Dennis loves him)
2) Lewis Hamilton (Ron Dennis adores him and is his manager. Juan Pablo looks slow next to Kimi...)

BAR-Honda
1) Barrichello (Good friend of De Ferran and experienced driver)
2) JuanPablo Montoya (agressive spectacular good for marketing)

Williams Honda
1) Jenson Button (loved by Honda)
2) Takuma Sato (cheap (Williams loves his money) and loved by Honda)

Toyota
1) Trulli
2) Ralf... ??

Renault
1) Alonso (who in his right mind would let him go)
2) Fisichella (unlucky but does a good job)
3) Webber (his manager is Flavio...)

Sauber-BMW
1) Heidfeld (he is loved by BMW)
2) Fisichella? (Sauber loves him and he has a good reputation)
3) Liuzzi (Was Sauber's choice before Credit Suisse pushed for JV)
0) No Villeneuve, I'm surprised he's still on the team...

Red Bull
1) Coulthard (Ferrari engine and Mark Smith designing his car: good arguments to stay put, "Top teams are just hassles...")
2) Scott Speed (espescially if he wins the GP2 championship: good marketing tool for RedBull in the USA... We badly need it after today's race)

Jordan
1) Would be nice to see Ryan Briscoe or Zonta (Toyota people) But it's going to be $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ all the way

Minardi
1) Pantano? Kubica? Albers?
2) $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
3) $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
4) $$$$$$$$$$$$