RallyX - third brake light needed?

oi_oi_savaloy · 28 Feb 2006, 13:05 (Ref:1533220)

Hi everyone

Can someone clear this up for me? I've got a stockhatch (a Metro similar to Si Horton's) and I'm trying to get it prepped for RSS Anglesey 9th April.

I haven't got the bluebook yet and I'm trying to clear something up. Do I need a third brake light on my car? I've got two already (set high up in the back windscreen).

If yes, would you be kind enough to tell me the dimensions needed and whether it's to be wired into the braking circuit or is it a 'fog'/Hi Visi light only.

Many thanks

The Savaloy

***MagnetON*** · 28 Feb 2006, 13:12 (Ref:1533226)

RallyX drivers use brakes?????

oi_oi_savaloy · 28 Feb 2006, 13:22 (Ref:1533237)

Not really - it's just to comply with the scrutineering bods.......!

Roundy Mooney · 28 Feb 2006, 16:30 (Ref:1533328)

Third light is a fog/ hi vis light that must run a on a switch which the driver can reach. Don't think there is any particular spec for lamp.??

***MagnetON*** · 28 Feb 2006, 16:30 (Ref:1533329)

Phew, my faith in humanity has been restored.

HrRACING · 28 Feb 2006, 16:51 (Ref:1533343)

No don't think there is a special size they have to be. They have to be mounted in the middle of the car I think so they can't be confused with the brake lights but thats it. Don't get asked to use them often, but at Pembrey last year they were rather usful!

Hows the build going? Got any pics of your car?

bigted · 28 Feb 2006, 18:20 (Ref:1533392)

oi_oi if you got to rallycrossuk.com there are draft regs for this year and it fully details everything you need for your car to be legal.

5.3.11 ELECTRICS.

5.3.11.a All lights may be removed

5.3.11.b All cars must be equipped with two rear
lights of the anti-crash type as used in fog with
minimum of 15 watts each and illuminated area of
60sq.cm. These must work with or replace the car
brake light system at all times and must be between
115cm and 150cm above the ground and must be
clearly visible from behind
5.3.11.c Generators are optional but the self
starter system must be operable at all times.

5.3.11.d Be equipped with an ignition cut-off switch
having positive ON–OFF position clearly marked, and
which must be operable by the driver when normally
seated with seat belts secured. It must also isolate
electric fuel pumps.

5.3.11.e Have any forward facing lamps of more
than 32sq.cm surface area adequately protected in
case of glass breakage.

5.3.11.f A red rear warning light complying with
current MSA Yearbook regulation Q.5. Must be fitted

silver bullet · 28 Feb 2006, 20:54 (Ref:1533470)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagnetON

RallyX drivers use brakes?????

Sometime's we have to use our brakes, but only if there is not a car in front of us, that we can use to slow down

silver bullet · 28 Feb 2006, 21:06 (Ref:1533480)

bigted, those are the regs for the Supermod's. The Stockhatch ones are :-
5.5.11 ELECTRICS.
5.5.11.a The type of battery is free but it Must
retain the original manufacturer’s location and be
secured.
5.5.11.b The battery must be capable of repeatedly
starting the engine.
5.5.11.c It is recommended that all lights are
removed and similar shaped covers are fitted to the
resulting holes.
5.5.11.d Two high-level brake lights MUST be fitted
to the inside of the rear window in accordance with
the Rallycross section G of the current MSA
yearbook.
5.5.11.e A high intensity rear light must be fitted in
accordance with MSA Yearbook regulation Q.5
5.5.11.f Both charging and starting circuits must
be as standard and function efficiently.

bigted · 1 Mar 2006, 06:36 (Ref:1533692)

oops sorry!

been looking at the supermod regs eh?

Something you wanna tell us?

silver bullet · 1 Mar 2006, 09:38 (Ref:1533779)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigted

been looking at the supermod regs eh?

Something you wanna tell us?

There you go again bigted jumping to conclusions

I was actually looking at the stockhatch regs and I realised the numbers didn't tally

oi_oi_savaloy · 1 Mar 2006, 09:48 (Ref:1533786)

Thanks for all your help guys. I'll get that light sorted out shortly.

The new car is finished. I'd like to post a picture of the car but I'm not sure I know how to limit the size of the picture so not going to try unless someone can advise?

sihorton · 1 Mar 2006, 18:50 (Ref:1534113)

As requested, a picture of Rhydians new metro gti at Anglesey (looks a bit out of shape on that bend to me

)

HrRACING · 1 Mar 2006, 21:55 (Ref:1534198)

Looks good, what are you using it for at Ty Croes there Rhydian?

oi_oi_savaloy · 2 Mar 2006, 12:44 (Ref:1534630)

The Anglesey Grass Track club held 3 meetings over the Xmas and New Year period; 'races for cars' - we got 4 (5 in the case of the last two meets) x 5 lap races and 2 lots of practice for £65 which was excellent value.

As it's my nearest circuit I used them to shake the car down and get some useful experience of actually racing other cars.

The picture above was a result of me trying some left foot braking.....practice makes perfect and all that!

They are doing the three races again this year I'm given to understand.

HrRACING · 3 Mar 2006, 14:02 (Ref:1535459)

Sounds good, and from here its not too far.

Let me know when there are more details!!

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