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8 Dec 2006, 11:59 (Ref:1785048) | #1 | ||
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When you enter a specific forum why do the ANNOUNCEMENTS take up so much room at the head of the page? It seems disproportionate to their importance and relevance. I can see why they are there and understand why, it is just that they do waste a heck of a lot of space and I get fed up having to page past them on every sub-forum.
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8 Dec 2006, 12:41 (Ref:1785087) | #2 | |
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they take up as much space as there are announcements - I've tried it in a few different layouts and I don't think it's excessive. Right now we have 3 - 2 requesting assistance for thefts and one promoting a charitable auction for a rider that was tragically killed earlier this year, leaving behind a wife and 3 young children.
What skin are you using? (if you're not sure, look at the very bottom left hand corner of your screen - you should see a drop down menu which will tell you what you're currently using). |
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8 Dec 2006, 12:53 (Ref:1785093) | #3 | ||
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Just doing some math and on my screen, with adverts turned off the F1 forum main page uses about 2300 pixels vertically. The global Announcements take up about 120 pixels. So that's about 5% of the total space. Hardly excessive, only 20% larger than the average Avatar and smaller than most single posts.
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10 Dec 2006, 23:18 (Ref:1787227) | #4 | ||
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Hmm, I just noticed that in the F1 forum I have to scroll down before I can see any threads at all! My screen resolution is 1280×960.
I suppose I could always fork out to 'remove the adverts', but hey, where's the fun in that. |
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So, after waiting 20 minutes for him to come out of the back of the garage, Matski asks "Are you going to get Jacques' seat then?" Robert replies "ha ha, I don't know!", signs Matksi's cap, and retreats to his motorhome. |
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It's the fact of life these days that every cent/pence per visitor helps. Running this place would not be cheap on just hosting costs alone, let alone time and personal effort/disruption. |
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12 Dec 2006, 22:13 (Ref:1789331) | #7 | |||
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However, As a web designer (a lazy part-time one) I do know what goes into a site like this. I know what I charge for doing stuff, and I know what I pay to have stuff done. Therefore, I also know how easy it is and how overpriced web design is. Based on that I choose to ignore the begging request under the banners (we're gonna show you adverts unless you pay us!), and usually I ignore it as easily as the adverts themselves. It only cropped up once someone else mentioned how much space stuff takes up. On the plus side, the adverts ad a little colour to the forum. #E7E9F7, #D1D4E0, #D1D4E0 and #FFFFFF gets a bit samey after a while. All that said, keep up the good work guys, it is a good website and it is well maintained - it was only finding this place the meant I didn't have to go and start up my own motorsport related website (actually I had planned on taking over racing circuits.net, but never got round to 'bidding'). Edited to pint out I continue using ten tenths - liquid because I like it to fill the width 100% Last edited by Matski; 12 Dec 2006 at 22:17. |
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Oh and free software as well presumably - no licences or anything like that? If so, can you tell us where you get them because the rest of us have to pay for these items. Quote:
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There's a vast difference between designing a web site and maintaining a dynamic forum with the kind of traffic that this one runs. I don't have a problem with you being of the opinion that this site costs us nothing - everyone is entitled to an opinion, regardless of how that fits in with the actual facts of the matter - but please don't try to set yourself up as an expert and tell people that this site costs nothing. I pay for it and I know precisely how much it costs and where those costs come from and the advertising revenue barely covers it - and some months it doesn't. |
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13 Dec 2006, 20:00 (Ref:1790059) | #9 | ||
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Firstly, I'm not setting myself up as an expert or telling people it costs nothing. If I have offended you or called in to question your motives, I'm sorry and that was not my intention.
I have felt the need to explain what I said in greater detail, but as I suspect most people don't give a toss about what I get up to in the evenings I have responded using the medium of PM. On a lighter note related to the original post, I knew a company that had to pay 50p everytime somebody clicked on there banner. The company that sold him the advertising used to phone around touting for business, using his banner as an example - anyone they phoned that gave them the time of day was directed to click on that banner -- it would have cost him a fortune had he not had the number of click throughs capped, all that happened was nobody of any use ever saw his banner ------ The lesson there is never click on somebodies banner unless you are genuinely interested, otherwise you are just costing them money. |
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14 Dec 2006, 08:54 (Ref:1790392) | #11 | ||
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Your apology is meaningless as you haven't actually retracted anything you've said - in fact, you've then gone on to accuse us of trying to cheat our advertisers. Tell me, what's next? So far we have begging and fraud. What other crimes would you like to implicate us in in your role as "web expert"? |
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14 Dec 2006, 18:59 (Ref:1790782) | #12 | ||
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Errr... ooooookay,
I didn't see fit to retract anything I said in order to validate my apology, as you seem to be re-acting to things I didn't actually say. Granted I used the word "Begging" (to ask for money?), but fraud? No! cheat? No! Costs Nothing? No? Anyway.... Feel free to delete my user account (block my IP too?) I do not come here for the community - I come for information, and I severley doubt that there is any information here that is not available anywhere else on the web. Matski, signing out, 2006. Priaulx for WTCC '07 Champion |
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it's not too much to ask that when you come into someone's house (in which they do a stunning job of keeping thousands (millions?) of we, the motorsport public, happy), that you show respects for the dedicated few who keep it running (And free to us the motorsport fan no less!)... Everything's always easy until you actually do it and manage it and find out about all the little hidden costs and time burdens that you cant foresee before you actually start doing the job. As a web designer, i fully appreciate the massive task at hand and the massive dedication it takes to keep a site like this running as well as you've succeeded in doing. so just wanted to shout out my appreciation. |
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Keep up the good work EP and MagnetOn. This is a very good site and I for one appreciate the work that y'all have done.
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15 Dec 2006, 08:50 (Ref:1791183) | #16 | ||
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amazing how someone is quite happy to come here and throw around insults and accusations but disappears in a cloud of smoke when they're asked to back their claims up. Thanks for the support folks. This site exists because of the many many people that have put so much hard work into it over the years - don't forget, we only took over 2 years ago! We have a wonderful hardworking volunteer staff that are responsible for keeping this community the nice place it is to be. But it's very important that everyone be aware of the following:
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15 Dec 2006, 10:29 (Ref:1791249) | #17 | ||
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Ah... MagnetON and EP, the only reason I keep coming back to this site is to watch you guys serve offensive little so-and-so's.
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