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19 Dec 2006, 20:37 (Ref:1795090) | #26 | ||
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Standing starts: All I can say is, I'm goin' to Vegas. I gotta see this ! Proof positive that KK LISTENS to his fans.
Onboard starters: See above. Timed races: A good thing if, like me, you watch the race on TV. No more hurried in-car radio interviews w the winner as the network cuts to Celebrity Poker... Flags: who needs 'em ? They're obsolescent vestiges of the pre-pitradio era. They got an entire army of pit staff w computers who likely will tell their driver when to go-for-it. Actually I kinda like the IRL idea of a common race control freq which parallels (but is separate from) the pit radio. No wind tunnels, OEM body panels: Good idea. CFD (computational fluid dynamics) produces 80% of the same result at 10% of the cost. Think the major players haven't digitized the Panoz and booked some time on a Cray ? YBYSA they have. Watch the 'cheating' begin on the body panels, with boundary layer turbulators and such tacked on the 'stock' panels. To summarize, CCWS is fast becoming what I loved about F1 15 years ago. They've avoided the pitfalls which Bernie and Max fell into. They've become economically stronger (mainly due to the split), and more accessible to privateers. They're attracting new venues/sponsors and interest while the IRL flounders on the model of what CART used to be. Is it April yet ??? I, for one, can't wait ! |
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21 Dec 2006, 04:35 (Ref:1796440) | #28 | ||
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Guess I shoulda said WHITE flags. Should've realized someone would take it outta context w/o reading the full-rules-printout.
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FYI I've read the full rules printout for CCWS, as well as Appendix H of the FIA International Sporting Code, IMSA's F&C regulations, the flag section of the SCCA GCR, as well as the flag section of the SCCA Pro Racing Rulebook. I'm having a hard time understanding what you mean by me taking your statement out of context in that regard. But, it's no big deal so don't worry about it. I think I made that cranky post before I had any coffee... |
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26 Dec 2006, 15:03 (Ref:1799420) | #30 | ||
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All I can say is, if Tony plans to try this for the first time in Vegas, remind me to ask the flag chiefs if I can have any other turn but 1. Or I want a second communicator and lots of cameras to help get numbers -- taking a leaf from Portland's book for the chicane. Of course if we do this the you-know-what will go down at the next turn!
So where else could they use this? Long Beach? Edmonton? Toronto? May I suggest Cleveland and Portland are not good candidates. Discuss... keke |
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27 Dec 2006, 01:17 (Ref:1799658) | #31 | ||
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If they're gonna standing-start at Cleveland, then I'm buying Panoz stock. They will probably need to add a second shift, because they'll be selling a lot of tubs immediately after turn 1. Jeez...these guys can't even get thru on a single file start.
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27 Dec 2006, 14:41 (Ref:1799931) | #32 | ||
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Heck, Cleveland is so wide you could have 2 rows of 10 cars. Then imagine the chaos.
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27 Dec 2006, 15:26 (Ref:1799938) | #33 | ||
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well, if CC has as much trouble with standing starts as F1, I think it would be an improvement.
Moving starts were used by Indy type cars as a necessity, they only had two speed gear boxes! It wasn't until the British joined in that they decided "maybe they needed a few more'. But they started telling us that standing starts are dangerous. What do they know about it? they never tried it. |
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5 Jan 2007, 05:56 (Ref:1806805) | #34 | |
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Two rows of 10 cars is BRILLIANT!
Can Shaker Rigs shake the car, say, forward at about 200 mph? Kind of sounds like "water cooled brakes" to me |
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6 Jan 2007, 04:12 (Ref:1807926) | #35 | ||
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Read this: http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/s...s=5&id=2719039
Apparently the only aspect of the car that the teams will be allowed to setup is the suspension. No aero changes will be permitted!! I know the IRL at least use to specify rear wing angle. It sounds like their dampers will be specified for them as well. I'm assuming the dampers have a number of different adjustments that can be made. It's kind of wild, but I guess it makes sense. There's really no way for teams like DCR to compete with NH if the full range of setup options are available. With just the suspension I suspect we will see the drivers play a much larger role in the speed of a given car. |
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I can't say I am a fan of the timed races but it beats the system they had. I was sick of seeing statagies go out the window at the last moment because a lap race was cut short by time. Going with one system is a good move. If they can't do the laps with no compromise then make all the races timed.
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The marshal force for Champ Car is already an international team. Apart from the fact the Race Director is a Kiwi, 40 of the 124 Flag and Comms guys at Vegas are from outside the USA, and are as used to FIA rules as Champ Car or ALMS, both of whom are trying to standardise on near FIA procedures. |
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