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Old 30 May 2007, 11:43 (Ref:1924563)   #1
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Which was the last F1 team to win its debut race?

I wonder whether is anyone out there who is able to answer this question?
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Old 30 May 2007, 12:10 (Ref:1924586)   #2
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I wonder whether is anyone out there who is able to answer this question?
Posibly WOLF if we are talking F1 GP rather than any old F1 race?
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Old 30 May 2007, 13:06 (Ref:1924625)   #3
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It was going to be BAR...
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Old 30 May 2007, 13:36 (Ref:1924648)   #4
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Wolf 1977 Jody........
Then BAR and Toyota
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Old 30 May 2007, 21:36 (Ref:1924972)   #5
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Team? That depends on the definition.

Wolf had been around as a team prior to 1977 but not with their own car.

Marlboro Team Texaco - Buenos Aires 1973, Denny Hulme in a McLaren M23 (but this was an existing team rebranded)
Gold Leaf Team Lotus - Jarama 1968, GSH in a 49 (so was this)
FISA - Reims 1961, Giancarlo Baghetti in a Ferrari 156 (works owned and prepared but entered and run by FISA)

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Daimler-Benz - Reims 1954, JMF in a W196
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Old 31 May 2007, 08:04 (Ref:1925202)   #6
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And Alfa Romeo. The 158 type won the first F1 race at Silverstone
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Old 31 May 2007, 15:12 (Ref:1925474)   #7
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The Alfa Romeo 158 won the first World Championship race at Silverstone.

This was NOT:

1 The first F1 race

or

2 Alfa Romeo's first F1 race

As D-Type pointed out, it depends on your definition, but the two contenders would be Wolf (who won their first race as a manufacturer in their own right, having previously attached their name to the old Williams cars) and Mercedes Benz.

It always helps to ask the right question ....
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Old 31 May 2007, 16:00 (Ref:1925501)   #8
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Old 31 May 2007, 21:04 (Ref:1925667)   #9
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Rosberg in the Theodore started the S African GP but failed to finish because of clutch trouble
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Old 4 Jun 2007, 12:06 (Ref:1928381)   #10
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Melchester Racing? Or how about AMCO?
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Old 5 Jun 2007, 15:21 (Ref:1929428)   #11
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Good point Dan. I believe Melchester Racing is the correct answer to the question as it is posed.
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Old 5 Jun 2007, 15:30 (Ref:1929434)   #12
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Old 5 Jun 2007, 15:38 (Ref:1929440)   #13
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We had British F1 then - were there any other F1 races in the world where local teams took part.

In fact anybody putting an F1 car into a libre race surely qualifies as a possible answer here!
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Old 5 Jun 2007, 15:38 (Ref:1929441)   #14
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Roy Race was driving.
Driving a Rover?
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We had British F1 then - were there any other F1 races in the world where local teams took part.
South Africa. Plus the Bologna motor show things that were almost exclusively Italian.
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Old 5 Jun 2007, 16:51 (Ref:1929507)   #16
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On the subject of Melchester racing team Manager Brian Morris is still living in Bromley and trying to set up a GT team using Aston Martins with his sons down to drive. The team will be called Melchester Racing!
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We had British F1 then - were there any other F1 races in the world where local teams took part.
Was it Brazil or Argentina that had their own national Formula 1 regulations in the days before BCE copyrighted the term?
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