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View Poll Results: DotR - France
Kimi Raikkonen 42 39.62%
Felipe Massa 3 2.83%
Lewis Hamilton 1 0.94%
Robert Kubica 29 27.36%
Nick Heidfeld 8 7.55%
Giancarlo Fisichella 0 0%
Fernando Alonso 14 13.21%
Jenson Button 7 6.60%
Other (please specify) 2 1.89%
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Old 2 Jul 2007, 18:05 (Ref:1952622)   #51
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Kubica for returning from that horrendous crash, and Massa for being number one all weekend, except in the final standings.
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Old 2 Jul 2007, 18:10 (Ref:1952634)   #52
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Fernando, he drove like the driver of the race should drive, but his strategy failed him :/ also Kubica solid solid race.
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Old 2 Jul 2007, 19:07 (Ref:1952703)   #53
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Kubica drove a solid race, but is the fact he returned from the accident significant? The accident fortunately didn't affect him much in the first place, so I don't think this is too much of a relevant point.
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Old 2 Jul 2007, 19:35 (Ref:1952723)   #54
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kubica for me to good drive also kimi solid return to form
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Old 2 Jul 2007, 21:01 (Ref:1952826)   #55
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Old 2 Jul 2007, 23:44 (Ref:1952941)   #56
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His car was damaged!
yeah, i was probably a bit harsh in my criticism of the lad...
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I'm going to give it Hamilton only because of his move of the race on Kubica. Kubica gets 2nd for a great comeback.
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Old 3 Jul 2007, 08:33 (Ref:1953131)   #58
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Raikkonen did everything he had to to win, and did it perfectly. He will have been told "jump lewis and follow felipe" and he did. "make up 2 seconds while felipe pits" he did, "make up another 2 secs and we'll do him" and he did.
Top job, Kimi.

I agree with the "why heikki" discussion, not that he is there.

idiot of the race? Arnold Trolley for taking out mr kovaleinen. "it was my fault" he said. No ****.

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Old 3 Jul 2007, 12:37 (Ref:1953370)   #59
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Kubica drove a solid race, but is the fact he returned from the accident significant? The accident fortunately didn't affect him much in the first place, so I don't think this is too much of a relevant point.
Concur.
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Kubica drove a solid race, but is the fact he returned from the accident significant? The accident fortunately didn't affect him much in the first place, so I don't think this is too much of a relevant point.
I agree too. Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't understand why he deserves DotR for having returned quickly from an accident. All it means is that thankfully he wasn't as badly injured as we all thought and that's primarily due to the strength of the car and luck.
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picked the kimster

for sure FM got unlucky with the backmarkers after his 2nd stop, but Kimi did put in the laps to make his 2nd stint work to his advantage.

also we have to be pleased that he didnt fall asleep during the race
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I agree too. Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't understand why he deserves DotR for having returned quickly from an accident. All it means is that thankfully he wasn't as badly injured as we all thought and that's primarily due to the strength of the car and luck.
According the FIA, it's due to whole string of factors. See here. They forget to mention luck, theirs being an objective investigation.

I say Kubica deserves to be where he is in the poll because he obtained his best-ever qualifying position and then beat his much vaunted team-mate Heidfeld in the race. And don't forget that although he was virtually uninjured in the accident, he experienced parts of it and has seen the video footage, so he knows exactly what occurred and exactly what many people felt when they first saw it.
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Fair points and that's why I picked him - he came back strongly and did his best drive of the season at this race

In fact forget the Lewis v Alonso dust up, the BMW scraps the one at the moment, although if borh drivers get new deals confirmed before end of the year I fear it may lose some intensity.

There's nothing like driving for a contract to bring the best out of a driver....
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Fair points and that's why I picked him - he came back strongly and did his best drive of the season at this race

In fact forget the Lewis v Alonso dust up, the BMW scraps the one at the moment, although if borh drivers get new deals confirmed before end of the year I fear it may lose some intensity.

There's nothing like driving for a contract to bring the best out of a driver....
Good point. It's sad but true but Nick seems to drive best under that kind of pressure. In fact, I wish that all drivers were on a year-by-year system. Well actually, I wish the driver's championship would just go away and they'd go back to being a manufacturer's championship only. No more team-orders or "agreements". Just maximum attack from both drivers all the time for maximum TEAM points.
What was this thread about again?
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No more team-orders or "agreements". Just maximum attack from both drivers all the time for maximum TEAM points.
Sadly you'd still get team orders, because teams would restrict their drivers from racing each other to ensure maximum team points. If anything it would get worse, because the constructors championship would hold more prestige (by virtue of being the only championship) so teams would be even more concerned that neither of their drivers retire from a given race.

A solution would be one car teams. You could then have more teams in F1.
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You'd end up with an interesting satellite network with one-car teams.
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Do you mean teams having some kind of relationship with others? That's why I don't approve of what Red Bull and Toro Rosso are doing. It's one entity in all the ways they want it to be, but we don't even know to what extent they operate as one so it all gets murkily confusing.
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Precisely.

I personally don't mind satellite systems (provided it is accepted as fair practice as per the regulations).
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