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Anybody disagreeing, please provide at least 1 single example of a FIA world championship that does NOT visit at least 3 continents. And ETCC is the perfect counter example. While it was "only" visiting 2 continents it was called ETCC. The very moment it started to visit 3 continents the name was bumped to WTCC, even if all but 2 weekends where still in Europe. |
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I think that might be the case. At least as i understood it, the new engine should already be fitted to the 110s for weekend 5 & 6, ie before the new model even gets to the championship. But how the stewards considers introducing a new model (resetting balast weigths etc) with moving an engine from 1 chassis to another at the same time... might be confusing
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When the Italian Super Touring Car Championship died there were 3 manufacturers involved: Alfa Romeo, Audi and BMW. In order to save the ST cars, and therefore their huge investments in developing the cars, they decided to create a new championship, based mainly in Italy, called Euro Stc. KSO organized the championship, though I don't know if it was named differently at that time, but anyway those 3 manufacturers created the championship. After a while the championship got an FIA title and became Etcc. What happened then was that it looked as pure nonsense to spend a huge amount of money travelling around Europe (Even to Dubai) and have a European titulation, just to save the money it took for 2 trips (1 to South America, 1 to Macau). World Touring Car Champion sounded more appealing. All of this to say that THE MANUFACTURERS pushed for the Etcc to become a World Championsip and, to do so, they had a race in South America and a race in Asia. Like that, the championship complied to the standards required for a World Championship. |
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In Italy we have a series (which is FIA authorized), and it's called Endurance Touring Car Series, but it does not respond to helgi's definition, nor to touring fan01's. So, who is right and who is wrong? |
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No. Formula One is a Championship. Like I said before, a championship is a series of races (each race which awards points) and they add up to determine the champion.
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Try to enter a team for Italian GP then. I'm sure (if you had enough money) it's more and more easily to enter a single WTCC event,as every real 'series' (GP,GP2,WSR...) is a closed championship.(Even in 'Autosport' in early 80s they wrote 'GP series',since 1981)
But there's LMS,where you can enter any event you like, so => => There's abracadabra with different sings because nobody put a real meaning in the titles of 'series' and 'championship'. These are only fancy sings now. Want to be Conservative then call your races 'champ'. Want to be cool - then 'series' is your choice. And FIA is deciding whether your races are suitable for 'champ' rank. For example, FIA GT is good enough to be called so, and LMS is not,even if it has similar technical and sporting regulations. If it was under FIA maybe it would be called World Spotscar Championship. But it's ruled by ACO. So,it only a 'series'. Maybe the main thing is who rules the races. If FIA does, then they are good enough to be called 'champ'. |
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I think this is not correct, since, for instance, World SERIES by Renault does determine its champions. So this definition sounds weird to me. As far as I know every series of at least 2 races has a champion, even the worst club race on Earth. |
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No, I'm not questioning your definition of championship, I'm questioning your definition of series as a number of races who does not determine a Champion. It doesn't look like so...
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What touring fan was describing is what I would consider a 'non-championship series', i.e. a collection of races where no points are awarded and there is no end-of-season winner. As far as I'm aware there is no official term for this. I think we've stumbled on one of the joys of the English language. It comes down to the difference between 'series' (lowercase 's') as meaning a group of, and 'Series' (uppercase 'S') as an official title. |
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