Rumours Which Circuits for FOTA championship? - Page 4

jab · 23 Jun 2009, 11:29 (Ref:2488967)

So we have Argentina on a Wednesday and the British GP on a Thursday. Yeah right...

Also, how do they expect to organise a new race at Helsinki in 14 months when they don't even have a name for this series? Not to mention that Abu Dhabi and Singapore are contracted to F1. And no race in China?

Looks suspiciously like some of the calendars here with a few extra races stuck in to beef it up and make a good story. So unless someone here's on the inside

steve nielsen · 23 Jun 2009, 12:06 (Ref:2489000)

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Originally Posted by EERO

I think it's a good schedule, but it would be better with Spa. Also, given the long term presence of Brazilian drivers at the front, I would like to see a Brazilian race. Add Rio right after Argentina and dump Abu Dhabi for Spa and I am content.

They will never dump Abu Dhabi, it's owned by a Ferrari shareholder: Mubadala

redshoes · 23 Jun 2009, 12:48 (Ref:2489037)

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Originally Posted by jab

So we have ... the British GP on a Thursday. Yeah right...

Remember it was sourced from the Guardian so probably a misprint. 11 July instead of 1 July would work out.

Marbot · 23 Jun 2009, 14:26 (Ref:2489098)

In order for a FOTA series to survive it needs to have races in countries where its members can sell cars.So places like the USA (not Indy),Russia,China should definitley be on that calendar.They are not! Which leads me to believe that the calendar is,at the moment,purely wishful thinking,and that the reality is some way off.

Pingguest · 23 Jun 2009, 14:31 (Ref:2489100)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

In order for a FOTA series to survive it needs to have races in countries where its members can sell cars.So places like the USA (not Indy),Russia,China should definitley be on that calendar.They are not! Which leads me to believe that the calendar is,at the moment,purely wishful thinking,and that the reality is some way off.

Does Russia have a Formula 1-worthy race track?

Any way, if FOTA is to win the current war (and to me it looks that way) it will only be a matter of time before they'll be going to Spa again.

Dan Friel · 23 Jun 2009, 16:26 (Ref:2489156)

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Originally Posted by ford prefect

Crash.net have published a leaked calendar (nicked from The Grauniad):

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/148803/...ar_leaked.html
Pure speculation on the part of The Guardian, so I take it with a bucketful of salt.
I suspect the link will be removed quickly so I have listed the circuits below:
3 March Buenos Aires Argentina Last hosted F1 in 1998
21 March Mexico City Mexico Last hosted F1 in 1992
11 April Jerez Spain Last hosted F1 in 1997
25 April Portimao Portugal Never hosted F1
2 May Imola San Marino Last hosted F1 in 2006
23 May Monte Carlo Monaco Current F1 host
6 June Montreal Canada Last hosted F1 in 2008
13 June Indianapolis United States Last hosted F1 in 2007
1 July Silverstone United Kingdom Current F1 host
25 July Magny-Cours France Last hosted F1 in 2008
15 August Laustizring Germany Never hosted F1
29 August Helsinki Finland Never hosted F1
12 September Monza Italy Current F1 host
26 September Abu Dhabi United Arab Emirates Current F1 host
10 October Marina Bay Singapore Current F1 host
24 October Suzuka Japan Last hosted F1 in 2006
8 November Adelaide or Surfers' Paradise Australia Last hosted F1 in 1995/Never hosted F1

Abu Dhabi in September I think not... clearly nonsense.

Marbot · 23 Jun 2009, 16:35 (Ref:2489161)

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Originally Posted by Dan Friel

Abu Dhabi in September I think not... clearly nonsense.

Any particular reason?

EERO · 23 Jun 2009, 17:23 (Ref:2489189)

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Originally Posted by steve nielsen

They will never dump Abu Dhabi, it's owned by a Ferrari shareholder: Mubadala

I see your point, Steve, but I don't like it.

duke_toaster · 23 Jun 2009, 17:37 (Ref:2489199)

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Originally Posted by steve nielsen

They will never dump Abu Dhabi, it's owned by a Ferrari shareholder: Mubadala

Eh? Ferrari have only one shareholder - FIAT.

Russia has no F1 grade tracks and to be honest I don't forsee anyone turning up to a race there, China has had terrible attendences as well. Big market or not, if you have no interest there is no interest. The US actually had interest in motorsport. China doesn't.

RichardRenes · 23 Jun 2009, 17:42 (Ref:2489202)

The Rio track is in very ill repair.. it wasn't even good enough to host the A1 race in 2006, so it's unlikely to host a 1T series race now (basically)

Dan Friel · 23 Jun 2009, 17:45 (Ref:2489205)

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Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Eh? Ferrari have only one shareholder - FIAT.

Mubadala have at least a 5% stake in Ferrari..

Purist · 23 Jun 2009, 18:36 (Ref:2489243)

There is an Apex Circuit Design proposal to refurbish Jacarepagua near Rio.

The Moscow Raceway is a Grade 1 circuit under construction, and is expected to begin operations in 2010 with potentially MotoGP and DTM. It is being floated as a site for the Russian Grand Prix. Unfortunately, the track (designed by Tilke) is only 4.07km (2.529 miles), with the longest straight being 873m. The next longest straight looks to be less than 500m. There are 15 corners, including a sequence of eight slow to medium speed turns with no substantial straights intervening.

**Bononi** · 23 Jun 2009, 22:48 (Ref:2489432)

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Originally Posted by RichardRenes

The Rio track is in very ill repair.. it wasn't even good enough to host the A1 race in 2006, so it's unlikely to host a 1T series race now (basically)

Yep... but Brasilia is preparing itself to host a IRL race and I already heard of talks of a possible deal, regarding that it's Nelson Piquet Snr hometown.

RBR already been there : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXBS8OVP_oc

jab · 24 Jun 2009, 12:41 (Ref:2489746)

GP.com said it was a nonsense calendar because there will probably be at least 2 races in the US, if not 3, and there will probably be races in Brazil and South Africa

But it may prove to be redundant now of course

**Bononi** · 24 Jun 2009, 13:36 (Ref:2489800)

Useless...

ECW Dan Selby · 24 Jun 2009, 16:23 (Ref:2489878)

Ah now it's actually a bit of a shame

Selby

Yannick · 24 Jun 2009, 16:44 (Ref:2489892)

With the FOTA now having signed a concorde agreement until 2012 (I think it is), the choice of tracks now stays with Bernie for the time being.
But it is pretty certain that FOTA will want to have a say in which markets to go to come the time of the next renewal of the concorde agreement.

It just makes no sense to race in Formula 1 without races in the USA or Canada, the UK, France and Germany. Russia is looking to be a promising market, too, when there is a Russian driver in the series.

duke_toaster · 24 Jun 2009, 17:37 (Ref:2489947)

I don't think Russia has the motorsport fan base to be honest, commies are always up for a bit of a major engineering project, but I never heard of any plans for Lada to enter F1.

China sounded good on paper, but motor racing takes place on tarmac. They get little attendance - and that's after they have bussed in members of the party and the army in. Then again, they had that for the Olympics. No point building massive facilities when few people want to go to it.

However, the USA and those other European countries do have realistic chances of selling out races. France maybe would need a new venue, as Magny is in the middle of nowhere. Even so I wouldn't be surprised if Magny's SF round this weekend gets more French spectators than the Chinese GP got Chinese spectators, and about the same number of Russian spectators a Russian GP would get.

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