Nurburgring 1959

[Cub]

Probably 1963 but what and who is it?

[Barry Boor]

Looks earlier than 1963 - and looks like Stirling!

[Angus Theape]

Looks about 60/61 and Phil Hill.

Moss at the Nurburgring in a Ferrari, especially a sportscar?

[Barry Boor]

Sorry, I thought it looked more like a Maserati.

[John Turner]

I'm with Barry; I think it is a Maserati. If it is it, it would have been several years out of date by 1963, since it looks a bit like a 300S to me. If it is Moss, it will be much earlier. Moss drove Astons in 58, 59, and a Maserati Birdcage in 60 at Nurburgring, winning all 3. He had also retired by 1963. So, if it is Moss and 300S, you could be looking as early as 1956, and also at the winner!

[JeanL]

Seem to be:
May 1957,Nürburgring 1000 Kms #4 Maserati 300S with Moss.

[John Turner]

Ah, one year out, then. Brooks won in 1957 in the DBR1/300; I should have remembered that Stirling was still in the Maser in '57, because that year he also drove the monster 450S and the wrongly executed Costin bodied coupe version at Le Mans.

Can we agree 1957, then?

[Barry Boor]

Sounds about right to me.

[Navyflier]

Originally Posted by John Turner

I'm with Barry; I think it is a Maserati. If it is it, it would have been several years out of date by 1963, since it looks a bit like a 300S to me. If it is Moss, it will be much earlier. Moss drove Astons in 58, 59, and a Maserati Birdcage in 60 at Nurburgring, winning all 3. He had also retired by 1963. So, if it is Moss and 300S, you could be looking as early as 1956, and also at the winner!

I took this photograph at Nurburg Ring in 1959. Moss was driving the Aston Martin during the race but he spent some time testing out the new Birdcage Maserati before the race. Of course he and Jack Fairman went on to win the 1000kms. in the Aston.

[Aysedasi]

You see guys, you would never have guessed that scenario, would you?!

[Barry Boor]

Mmmm... the problem I have is that it just don't look like a Birdcage to me.
The wheel arches are not high enough in relation to the bonnet line.
(ducks and runs for cover!)

[JeanL]

If it is 1959,
the candidate is #10 Maserati 300S ,Mario Cabral / Felipe Nogueira.

[Barry Boor]

Of course, we are all making an assumption that it IS SCM - but of course, it might not be.
It's all very well us making guesses but Navyflier must know when he went there.
One thing is definite, though, it is not a Birdcage.

[John Turner]

No, I agree it isn't. I mentioned the Birdcage to put it into context to show that if it was a 300S, which I'm pretty sure it is, it would have been obsolete by many years in 1963.

[John Turner]

I've played about with the image using contrast and enlargement but just cannot read the competition number. However, as navyflier has said it is 1959, JeanL must be correct if that was the only 300S running.

[JeanL]

This 300S have a annexe C windscreen,so it is after 1956 and before 1960,and a grid on the side,like #4/1957 and #10/1959 (the same car ?).

[Cub]

Originally Posted by Navyflier

I took this photograph at Nurburg Ring in 1959. Moss was driving the Aston Martin during the race but he spent some time testing out the new Birdcage Maserati before the race. Of course he and Jack Fairman went on to win the 1000kms. in the Aston.

OK, we reckon that Moss spent the practice session playing in two Maseratis, the 300s and the Birdgage which is shown below.

[JeanL]

Superb.

[D-Type]

Originally Posted by Cub

OK, we reckon that Moss spent the practice session playing in two Maseratis, the 300s and the Birdcage which is shown below.

The Birdcage was the original 2 litre Tipo 60 so it would be logical to make back to back tests against a 200S rather than a 300s. But I wasn't there and Maserati aren't famous for being logical.

[Cub]

Stirling Moss testing the Birdcage Maserati at Nurburgring 1959.

[Cub]