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20 Nov 2009, 20:04 (Ref:2586020) | #1 | |
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Cockpit adjustable ARBs in F1
Have they ever been used in F1?
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20 Nov 2009, 22:28 (Ref:2586083) | #2 | ||
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Yes.
They were banned I think, but I can't remember when or on what grounds. Same thing happened in most other major single seater championships too (?). |
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20 Nov 2009, 22:50 (Ref:2586098) | #3 | ||
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Banned? Really? I missed that one. Been a part of racing for so long I've assumed that the drivers can still adjust the anti roll bars from the cockpit, as is the case with many forms of race car.
Very surprised at this, I would have assumed with the amount of adjustment from the cockpit on an F1 car that bars were still in play. Interesting..... |
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21 Nov 2009, 11:40 (Ref:2586367) | #4 | |
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Was it allowed in 1991?
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21 Nov 2009, 20:57 (Ref:2586627) | #5 | ||
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Yeah - they were in common use at that stage.
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21 Nov 2009, 21:24 (Ref:2586649) | #6 | ||
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definately banned in sportscars, were used in group c era not sure gt1 period but were not around after 1999 i doubt they were used in gt1 either.
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24 Nov 2009, 19:00 (Ref:2588587) | #7 | ||
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know the reason they were banned?
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24 Nov 2009, 21:32 (Ref:2588656) | #8 | ||
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Adjustable aero?
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2 Dec 2009, 10:05 (Ref:2592736) | #9 | ||
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Safety? Get the adjustment wrong (turn dial the wrong way) and end up in the scenery? Banned in our series also.
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11 Dec 2009, 09:38 (Ref:2597795) | #10 | |
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I don't think you would get enough of a difference to 'end up in the scenery'. Not unless you can make a massive change or you drop off the end of the bar.
I guess all driver modifications are banned? (other than brake bias). How far could this have gone? damper changes? spring rate changes? I these were all banned before the engineers could fully exploit it. |
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11 Dec 2009, 13:17 (Ref:2597884) | #11 | ||
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Don't forget that 2009 spec F1 cars have driver adjustable front wings.
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