So whats next for the Korean International Circuit?

I Rosputnik · 26 Oct 2010, 20:17 (Ref:2780887)

So now that the GP has come and gone, what's next for the Korean Internation Circuit? (KIC)

Apart from building a city around it, any word on changing any of the track, such as the pit lane exit.

I'm sure that there's plenty to do to the track.

TFHarv · 26 Oct 2010, 20:52 (Ref:2780896)

I think that besides wanting to let it settle and improve drainage there will be little that they want to do to the circuit. Costs them enough to have F1 their without making any major changes.

Only 2 other major events listed for the year too

stripedcat · 27 Oct 2010, 11:00 (Ref:2781098)

We'll have to wait until next year to see how the track has "bedded in" to see if it is any different. I don't think it is a particularly exciting track, but it is a lot better than some of the previous Tilke dromes. Despite having two very long straights on it, it does look quite difficult to overtake there.

E.B · 27 Oct 2010, 12:14 (Ref:2781125)

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Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

So now that the GP has come and gone, what's next for the Korean Internation Circuit? (KIC)

Well my answer relates not to track modifications or expansion, but more from an event aspect..... So, whats next?

Announced in early September was The 2010 Korea Super Prix, to be held 26th–28th November at the Korean International Circuit. They will use the full F1 circuit, (not the shorter permanent circuit).

It is a Formula Three event, held from the late 1990's up to 2003, and held traditionally at the Changwon City Raceway. It was actually the first international race meeting ever held in Korea, and so was the precursor to the F1 GP. The event used to back to back as a season end sort of flyaway for F3, run as a warm up event prior to the classic Macao F3 / WTCC and Bike meeting, but has not been held since 2003. (It actually got replaced by the Bahrain Superprix).

I think Jenson Button actually raced at the Korean Super Prix in his F3 year in 1999, finishing on the podium....... his McLaren mate Lewis was on pole for the 2003 event.. Nico Rosberg, Robert Kubica, Nelson Piquet Junior, Heikki Kovalainen, Takuma Sato are other names since known in F1 circles to have competed at a Korean Superprix.

This year's event is actually being run as a sort of grand finale of the F3 year, with the worlds top F3 cars heading on to Korea straight from Macao.

Anyway, the event has been re-introduced, to be held in a months time at the KIC. It starts with a day of testing on Friday followed by qualifying on Saturday and a heat race before the main Super Prix race on Sunday.

Hopefully as an event it will be more fortunate with the weather than the F1 GP.

strider · 27 Oct 2010, 13:57 (Ref:2781158)

The organiser seems to be aware of what needs to be done and is going to get on with it.

I think it should be a very good meeting next year, although it will always be at the mercy of the elements. The other thing that needs to happen is for the track surface to bed in and provide better natural drainage.

ralf fan · 27 Oct 2010, 20:22 (Ref:2781310)

Sadly it will be a professional job there next year with perfect asphalt and drainage.

Points to a bore of a race.

marcel82 · 29 Oct 2010, 21:41 (Ref:2782323)

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Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

So now that the GP has come and gone, what's next for the Korean Internation Circuit? (KIC)

Apart from building a city around it, any word on changing any of the track, such as the pit lane exit.

I'm sure that there's plenty to do to the track.

if the F1 2010 video game is to be a reference, pit lane exit will go completely round the gravel trap for turns 1 & 2

Matt · 29 Oct 2010, 22:33 (Ref:2782355)

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Originally Posted by marcel82

if the F1 2010 video game is to be a reference, pit lane exit will go completely round the gravel trap for turns 1 & 2

There's no need to change the pit exit...

Mr V · 31 Oct 2010, 20:06 (Ref:2783105)

I think the pit enterance will have to be changed for next year, it was only the bad weather and safety cars etc that saved a possible accident there.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 3 Nov 2010, 00:09 (Ref:2784259)

Maybe they just ought to finish the whole complex off, marina included.

Wims · 3 Nov 2010, 02:00 (Ref:2784274)

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Originally Posted by Mr V

I think the pit enterance will have to be changed for next year, it was only the bad weather and safety cars etc that saved a possible accident there.

Petrov had an accident there, altho not while trying to pit. And nobody got hurt, except for Petrovs ego of course, and possibly his chances of landing a race seat for 2011

Purist · 3 Nov 2010, 03:30 (Ref:2784279)

I think Australian V8 Supercars are supposed to be at the track in the spring, so it'll be interesting to see how they go.

I mentioned this in the "My Tracks" section, but I am extremely confident in saying that even though the buildings and marina are yet to be built, the land for them has already been divied up, and is thus out of reach to be used now to make changes to the track. In other words, I'm pretty sure there isn't the leeway to change the track/pit layout in any noticeable way now that it's in. Heck, I'm not sure there was any flexibility to change it by the time construction began.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 3 Nov 2010, 03:47 (Ref:2784280)

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Originally Posted by Purist

I think Australian V8 Supercars are supposed to be at the track in the spring, so it'll be interesting to see how they go.

Will this be on the full GP track, or one of the other configurations?

Purist · 3 Nov 2010, 04:16 (Ref:2784284)

I'm only aware of the two main courses, and considering the lack of length and preparation of the fully permanent circuit, I'd have to think the V8s will be using the full GP layout.

**GTRMagic** · 3 Nov 2010, 04:20 (Ref:2784285)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Will this be on the full GP track, or one of the other configurations?

Right now the venue is off the calendar, but there are whispers that it may reappear when the right volume of Korean won shows up in Nerang...

**bjohnsonsmith** · 3 Nov 2010, 04:35 (Ref:2784287)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Right now the venue is off the calendar, but there are whispers that it may reappear when the right volume of Korean won shows up in Nerang...

I won't hold my breath.

strider · 3 Nov 2010, 12:45 (Ref:2784398)

The Formula 3 Superprix is due to be held there later this month, right after Macau, but I saw a Tweet last night from one of the drivers saying the event had been cancelled. I wouldn't be surprised. The circuit isn't really ready yet and it was a minor miracle that the GP was completed.

Teretonga · 3 Nov 2010, 18:30 (Ref:2784536)

Yep
It has been cancelled (Autosport) for 2011. But the plan is to solve the problem and run it regularly from 2012 onward.

E.B · 4 Nov 2010, 01:42 (Ref:2784718)

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Originally Posted by Teretonga

Yep
It has been cancelled (Autosport) for 2011. But the plan is to solve the problem and run it regularly from 2012 onward.

Yes indeed it is off, which is a pity, if only from the fact that 30+ F3 cars on an end of term jamboree would have been likely fun.

Macau organiser Barry Bland said:

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"KAVO have had to cancel the Korea F3 Superprix, due to Force Majeure. We understand this is due to a legal technicality with the circuit, which appears to have been brought about by some objectors.

"It should be a temporary problem, but that is all we know at the moment. This is hugely disruptive and disappointing, and it is obvious that the cancellation will bring many associated problems. Our priority is now to get everyone home quickly after the Macau event."

Bland said he expected the "government-backed" project to resolve its issues fairly quickly, certainly in time for the F3 Superprix to run in 2011.

"I do hope so," he added. "We have a contract for it and should be able to revive it next year. The track should lend itself to a very good F3 race."

"Some objectors"? Tree Huggers in Korea???

Birddog07 · 4 Nov 2010, 04:26 (Ref:2784741)

Get someone other that Tilke to modify the track and make it exciting?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 4 Nov 2010, 04:38 (Ref:2784743)

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Originally Posted by Birddog07

Get someone other that Tilke to modify the track and make it exciting?

Bernie wants it all in house.

Wims · 4 Nov 2010, 05:40 (Ref:2784753)

I thought it was pretty decent, with off camber corners etc. Certainly a few interesting design elements.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 4 Nov 2010, 06:16 (Ref:2784759)

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Originally Posted by Wims

I thought it was pretty decent, with off camber corners etc. Certainly a few interesting design elements.

It certainly made a change from your normal Tilke track and it was anti-clock wise.

Birddog07 · 4 Nov 2010, 21:03 (Ref:2785101)

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Originally Posted by Wims

I thought it was pretty decent, with off camber corners etc. Certainly a few interesting design elements.

Somewhat, but overall it's just another track that I don't think will become anything classic. Then again it could just be bore of F1 'racing'.

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