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Old 28 Jan 2011, 22:16 (Ref:2822055)   #1
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X flow tappets

Sorry if this is wrong area, too many to choose from, also searched and no further forward!

Just rebuilt my crossflow engine, spec is

BCF3 cam
+40 pistons
double valve springs
Big valve head
gas flowed head.

Problem is the top end is noisy, someone please tell me correct tappet settings, had lots of suggestions, but none seem to help things!
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Old 30 Jan 2011, 07:49 (Ref:2822580)   #2
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use steel posts,spacers,not springs on the shaft,have tappet faces ground, 18/20 hot,alloy cover helps too.
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Old 30 Jan 2011, 11:19 (Ref:2822641)   #3
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graham bahr should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridgraham bahr should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
there also a fair chance your valves are touching the pistons something quite common with a bcf3 cam
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Old 30 Jan 2011, 20:57 (Ref:2822908)   #4
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Apart from what Graham said have you made the push rod holes in the head larger ? as the push rods rub on the sides on full lift with a big cam .
You say a "big" valve head, are the valves touching the side of the bores ?
These are 2 common mistakes with this engine
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Old 2 Feb 2011, 20:15 (Ref:2824749)   #5
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there also a fair chance your valves are touching the pistons something quite common with a bcf3 cam
Had thought that myself, then thought more, prior to rebuild it was running BCF3 cam and same size valves.
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Old 2 Feb 2011, 20:35 (Ref:2824761)   #6
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easy to check though, get the cylinder at tdc on overlap, hook a spanner over the tappet adjuster and see how much further you can open the valve
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Old 2 Feb 2011, 23:01 (Ref:2824820)   #7
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Coil bound springs maybe ? (same check what Graham said)
I actually made a decent tool to do this job so we had 50 thou clearance before going solid on full lift.
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If some or one of the above is not quite right, check the pushrods aren't bent as well.

was the cam new? are the followers new, even if the cams not? are the followers free in the block, ie did they turn freely when inserted, they die very quickly indeed if they don't turn.
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And so it continues, have checked all the above and all good, now....
no oil at top end


The oil pump is working as if i take the oil sender unit out of the block and turn it over, oil pours out.
So (at last) the question is, could the releif valve be stuck open?
All oil ways were clear prior to assembly, I have taken the rocker shaft off and pushed a welding rod down the oil way, the rod goes way beyond the head gasket until it reaches a firm stop.


Suggestion/answers on this one please.

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Old 6 Feb 2011, 21:03 (Ref:2826866)   #10
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have the cam bearings been replaced? get one wrong and you can starve the topend of oil
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If the pressure relief valve was stuck open you would have more than a top end rattle
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If the pressure relief valve was stuck open you would have more than a top end rattle
deffo agree with you there gordon
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Anyway, the Kent engine doesn't have a main "direct" oil feed to the rocker assembly but is fed from the front camshaft bearing via a slot in the cam at every turn.
Either as Graham said a bearing has been fitted wrongly (front has two holes) or the cam hasn't had the slot cut in it (unlikely)
At least they are a piece of cake to work on !!!
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Old 23 Feb 2011, 20:56 (Ref:2835863)   #16
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Sorry for the delay, dont know why but oil is now getting to top end and all is fine, yes I am puzzled!
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