So what exactly is HRT F1 Team?

SJA · 23 Dec 2011, 07:47 (Ref:3003465)

Kolles gone. One presumably thinks the cars, infrastructure and staff have gone with him.

No engine deal.

No real drivers to speak of. Okay DLR has some sort of contract, but whatevs.

No sponsors.

No base. Somewhere inbetween their previous base and their so-called new base in Spain.

A meaningless name. Used to be Hispania Racing F1 Team, but new owners changed it specifically to HRT F1 Team for some reason, removing the roots it actually wanted in spain - so what does HRT F1 Team actually mean?

Apart from all this, where the hell is Kolles going with all of his gear and staff?

Where is this going? What is next for all the parties concerned?

wolfhound · 23 Dec 2011, 10:23 (Ref:3003498)

Colin Kollles could have a number of possibles in GT, prototypes or DTM?

I suspect he may have something in the background but is not ready yet.

Do we know who terminated the agreement with HRT was it Kolles or HRT?

Graz · 23 Dec 2011, 10:48 (Ref:3003504)

A number of months back, I read somewhere (Autosport maybe?) that Kolles was planning to leave anyway and was just getting HRT in order in advance. He was being linked with a role with McLaren or Renault - it was with one fo the top teams but who it was escapes me.

NewYankee01 · 23 Dec 2011, 10:53 (Ref:3003506)

has all the staff gone with CK, its always going to be tough for hrt, all the new teams have big backers whereas hrt obviously headed by a businessman with no motorsports business sense!

tbh it may have previously had a spanish name, obviously but its not lost its identity anyway, i mean i quite like the simple chequered flag colour scheme, looks diabolical on tv though but i see nowhere were it has a prominent spanish flag on it like ferrari has an italian flag for their's, they have a long way to go before anyone truly associates them as a spanish team, who's going to get the second seat, there's plenty of up and coming spanish drivers around but will they get picked?

flor · 23 Dec 2011, 11:34 (Ref:3003517)

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Originally Posted by SJA

Kolles gone. One presumably thinks the cars, infrastructure and staff have gone with him.

The cars are already in Spain. They are working on them in an empty old supermarket. Also some HRT stuff went to spain, people who weren't part of Kolles' core team. Also there seems to be the staff from some GP2 or World Series team involved with the Spanish operation

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No sponsors.

Apparently the spaniards think they can run the team from the tv money alone.....

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Originally Posted by SJA

No base. Somewhere inbetween their previous base and their so-called new base in Spain.

The new cars are being build at Holzer's old DTM factory and there is some engineering department in Munich which they will continue to use and is not part of Kolles operation

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Apart from all this, where the hell is Kolles going with all of his gear and staff?

I have no idea, but the only possibilities might be sports cars or something like GP2.

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Where is this going? What is next for all the parties concerned?

no one knows lol

p-matt · 23 Dec 2011, 11:48 (Ref:3003520)

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Originally Posted by Graz

A number of months back, I read somewhere (Autosport maybe?) that Kolles was planning to leave anyway and was just getting HRT in order in advance. He was being linked with a role with McLaren or Renault - it was with one fo the top teams but who it was escapes me.

Wasn't it Williams he was linked to?

Graz · 24 Dec 2011, 17:01 (Ref:3003964)

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Wasn't it Williams he was linked to?

Yeah it might have been, I can't recall exactly other than that he was preparing to leave and go to an established team. I struggle to call Williams a top team these days alas.

strider · 24 Dec 2011, 23:19 (Ref:3004054)

I hope he goes nowhere near Williams.

JeremySmith · 24 Dec 2011, 23:21 (Ref:3004057)

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I hope he goes nowhere near Williams.

Ditto...

Mekola · 25 Dec 2011, 11:43 (Ref:3004128)

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Originally Posted by SJA

A meaningless name. Used to be Hispania Racing F1 Team, but new owners changed it specifically to HRT F1 Team for some reason, removing the roots it actually wanted in spain - so what does HRT F1 Team actually mean?

HRT F1 was ever the official name of the team. FIA didn't authorised Hispania Racing Team as the name, hence the initials remained as the team's name. With Carabante gone, the initials persisted.
One could speculate that the "T" of HRT F1 could be used for Thesan Capital...

Paradise City · 26 Dec 2011, 23:10 (Ref:3004392)

It's a skeleton kit-car team with a revolving door of management. Needs to stabilise sooner rather than later if its to survive. You wonder whether they'll appear at Melbourne. They've defied the odds before I suppose.

wolfhound · 11 Jan 2012, 21:49 (Ref:3010396)

HRT might be using last years car for the start of next season as their new one will not be ready in time. The complication with this is that a lot of parts on the car are lifed and new ones will have to be made for the old car. As most of F1's suppliers are very busy at this time of year it could lead to further delays.

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/

They probably should not bother with a new car and go for updates of the existing.(That's probably what the new one is anyway)

Jacques Rabbit · 11 Jan 2012, 22:20 (Ref:3010418)

What exactly is HRT F1 Team?

****, that's what.

But they also take so much more abuse than Marussia yet have beaten them in the WCC both seasons out. They just don't have the fancy colors and a *swoon* GP2 champion on their team.

Then again, they also don't have any kind of stable future, as highlighted by this thread, whereas Marussia might actually make it a few extra years past them.

SJA · 12 Jan 2012, 03:57 (Ref:3010494)

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Originally Posted by Jacques Rabbit

What exactly is HRT F1 Team?

****, that's what.

But they also take so much more abuse than Marussia yet have beaten them in the WCC both seasons out. They just don't have the fancy colors and a *swoon* GP2 champion on their team.

Then again, they also don't have any kind of stable future, as highlighted by this thread, whereas Marussia might actually make it a few extra years past them.

Quite amazing that, isn't it? And not necessarily something HRT should be proud of so much as Marussia should be ashamed!

In light of Joe Sawards recent enlightening post from Valencia, I am quite happy to lay down some coin on HRT folding before P1 Melbourne.

Think about it. No cars, no engine, one "driver", and an empty warehouse. "The Pride of Spain" - what a joke!

They wont announce a second driver
They wont announce an engine supplier

...Anyone remember USF1?

They are GONE! They're just limping to keyboard to write the press release!

**GTRMagic** · 12 Jan 2012, 07:47 (Ref:3010526)

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Quite amazing that, isn't it? And not necessarily something HRT should be proud of so much as Marussia should be ashamed!

In light of Joe Sawards recent enlightening post from Valencia, I am quite happy to lay down some coin on HRT folding before P1 Melbourne.

Think about it. No cars, no engine, one "driver", and an empty warehouse. "The Pride of Spain" - what a joke!

They wont announce a second driver
They wont announce an engine supplier

...Anyone remember USF1?

They are GONE! They're just limping to keyboard to write the press release!

USF1? Their website Here finally ran out of registration in December. For sale if you would like it, from that fine NASCAR/IndyCar sponsor GoDaddy.com

With all this noise around HRT not having its technical plan together, it does bring some sense to reports that Mr Alguersuari perhaps doesnt wish to join them...

A lot was made out of the uncompetitiveness of Minardi throughout their racing life.. but I dont recall as many 'courageous' operating decisions as have been demonstrated by the HRT 'management'

Who knows... they may surprise us by showing up in Melbourne with a Renault powerplant in the tail of a brand new car

steve_r · 12 Jan 2012, 10:36 (Ref:3010603)

Similar rumours were circulated for the past two seasons, and both times the team got to the first race by the skin of its teeth, and both previous seasons their car ran at a similar pace to the other new teams. Respect to them for that.

Surely though they cannot continue in this vein for ever though. There has to come a time when they finally get their act together or dissappear altoghether. Hopefully the former.

csirl · 12 Jan 2012, 10:44 (Ref:3010607)

I bet they beat Marussia(Virgin) again this year.

Marbot · 12 Jan 2012, 16:40 (Ref:3010782)

Rumours suggest that HRT are seeking to use its 2011 car for some races in the coming season.

It now has a warehouse in an industrial estate that is not located near to the Valencia track.

They have a Ford Transit...anything is possible if you have a Ford Transit.

steve_r · 13 Jan 2012, 11:56 (Ref:3011125)

... and a wheeliebin, all ready to dump last years chassis.

**bella** · 13 Jan 2012, 14:58 (Ref:3011208)

i think behind the wheelie bin there's a sneak preview of their 2012 chassis and paintjob too.

Alfaholic · 13 Jan 2012, 20:01 (Ref:3011350)

Isn't that a spy shot of the first 2012 chassis being delivered?

A picture of an early development prototype being tested has been released...

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Hubble · 13 Jan 2012, 21:17 (Ref:3011377)

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i think behind the wheelie bin there's a sneak preview of their 2012 chassis and paintjob too.

I thought the wheelie bin WAS their new chassis...

**bella** · 13 Jan 2012, 22:29 (Ref:3011412)

nonsense.

it'd never pass the crash tests. the renault estate at least has a decent rating

Marbot · 14 Jan 2012, 00:25 (Ref:3011444)

Here's a picture of Liuzzi crash testing the 2011/12/13> chassis.

Teretonga · 14 Jan 2012, 02:03 (Ref:3011462)

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Here's a picture of Liuzzi crash testing the 2011/12/13> chassis.

I see HRT were using the Lotus Renault and Mercedes-AMG crash test rigs....

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