[Official] Rate the race- Korean Grand Prix

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by Knowlesy

The benchmark for a boring race will always be Hungary 2004. That was such a bad race that it was ineligible for any form of score. It was simply a zero of a race and caused real, genuine tears of hurt and confusion. Racing wasn't meant to be that boring.

This was only marginally better. Utter dross dished up on an absolute non-entity of a track with zero spectators there to witness it. If a dull race occurs and nobody is there to see, did it actually happen? Unfortunately, television cameras were there to record the abysmal truth.

One out of ten.

Originally Posted by Armco Bender

1 out of 10 too,it was marginally better than being in a coma.

I put a 2... marginally better. If Hungary 2004 was a 1 than this was barely a 2. Was there a fire or something? Why was it so hazy? Or was it pollution rolling in from China?

Depressing spot to put a racetrack, the track was falling apart, Vettel won, and absolutely nothing excited. 2 1/2 hours of my life I will never get back.

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by JeremySmith

Well rain is possible, as the weather can turn on a dime here at this time of year..

Korea.. My main problems with it are that the facility's look run down and not maintained. The track itself is very very bumpy, like driving over a giant washboard. The air quality is so poor that on TV you can't see the cars on the long straights, and overall it does not produce good racing for F1 cars..

This. All what I needed to say.

I'm an environmentalist in training, and seeing the horrible pollution sickens me.

[dtb]

......and we still have 3 Tilke circuits left to go

[JeremySmith]

Originally Posted by Marbot

That's good, but the trend is usually for dry weather I'm told?



Unlike Interlagos?



I don't remember any of the drivers complaining about bumps. Astroturf, yes. Bumps, no.



The air quality can be poor at Silverstone under the right circumstances! China is worse. And the racing quality can be variable at either Korea, Brazil (also not known for its excellent air quality), Silverstone or China. Suzuka wasn't much better than Korea.

Okay Interlagos you can't use as a comparison, because yes it is run down and could do with a facelift ONLY however it delivers the goods every time we go there...

Brazil has tons of passion for motor racing and sports in general..

You are quite correct Korea is not the only place with terrible air quality.. but the Korea circuit is out in the back of beyond, no hotels, very little good food to eat from what I read, and no history of being interested in motorsports, unlike Brazil...

The landscaping, if you can call it that is terrible in Korea, I would drop it like a lead balloon..

The condition of the track surface, for a new facility is shocking, it's built on sinking ground, that would be my guess ?

I promise you good weather Temp around 70F for our race at Austin, a real race track, not *finished* as I have said many times before, but ready to put on a good race...

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by Beetle

I'm an environmentalist in training, and seeing the horrible pollution sickens me.

It seems to be the norm now in that part of the world. They'll/we'll probably pay for it in years to come.

You'll be pleased to know that the 2014 turbo engines will have an EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) system. It won't make a lot of difference to F1 NOx output, but it might make some of the currently used road car systems a little better.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Armco Bender

TV GP highlights on the news here showed the Gangnam guy waving the chequered flag followed by more Gangnam guy waving the flag.

That's a lot of flag waving for one guy, Gangnam or not.

[Bononi]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

That's a lot of flag waving for one guy, Gangnam or not.

Now if only the music was good...

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Bononi

Now if only the music was good...

It does leave a lot to be desired.

[Beetle]

On the topic of air pollution...

Shanghai International Circuit

Notice how hazy the views of the stands are?

Buddh International Circuit

Even Buxton was complaining! Dust and pollution from nearby New Delhi drenches the scene... as usual.

Korea International Circuit

The smog rolled in just in time for the race.

Interlagos

On the outskirts of Sao Paulo, smog is always present.



It's not really the racecars that make the difference. It's the city buses and the masses. Alternative energy for RACING is not the way to go. Alternative energy for MASS MARKET PRODUCTION in roadcars is the way to go. And a catalytic converter on this bus...

[Marbot]

What that Bus needs is a DPF (diesel particle filter), it's a required fitment for any diesel car currently competing in the Le Mans series. *cough*

[GT6]

not a great race gave it a 4