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Old 23 Sep 2017, 19:21 (Ref:3769453)   #201
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Spot on stewards decision. Vettel's mess up. Needs to race better.
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Old 25 Sep 2017, 01:34 (Ref:3769673)   #202
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Spot on stewards decision. Vettel's mess up. Needs to race better.

Vettel's mess up was to place himself at risk to Max, I have the feeling that if Max was a serious championship contender this year and the Ferraris closed him out like this there would not have been an accident.

Max's logic; and Horner's pre-race interview; was that Seb was racing for a championship and would not force the issue with him, wrong, Vettel had a brain explosion and tried to force the issue with the young and desperate.
Vetttel should have taken a leaf out of Hamilton's book and heeded:

"That kid's dangerous, it wasn't worth it."

Should Max have been done for causing an avoidable incident is probably the accurate question?
No, according to the stewards.
Probably the correct decision.
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Old 25 Sep 2017, 10:11 (Ref:3769711)   #203
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Vettel had no reason to defend against a hard young charger like Max, he should have just kept on his line.
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Old 25 Sep 2017, 11:35 (Ref:3769723)   #204
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how boring is all of this, it was just a crash!!!
It's significant, in that it has impacted on Vettel's championship hopes but otherwise, a bit too much over analysis on what was a crash.
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Old 25 Sep 2017, 11:45 (Ref:3769725)   #205
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There are startline crashes like this in just about every racing series just about every week but this crash is analysed as if Vettel committed an act of GBH
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There are startline crashes like this in just about every racing series just about every week but this crash is analysed as if Vettel committed an act of GBH
What he did and the subsequent inevitable crash was GBH in F1 terminology. Ridiculous, desperate tactics which should have been stamped out long ago by the FIA. There is no need for a driver, particularly one of Vettel's ability, to employ such an outlandish blocking manoeuvre and as I and a lot of other more learned observers have commented, if this type of on track behaviour had been outlawed from the onset, we would have had a decent race. The roots go way back to Senna and Schumacher, ergo if it was acceptable then.......
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Blocking has been and will always be part of racing. No matter how hard you try, you will never be able to outlaw them. Even in Nascar they are moving all over the place to block. I never understood that "omg, it is the end of the world", seeing it has gone on for decades and we are still racing.

Blocking stupidly exercised is dumb but takes care of itself.
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Who said Mr Alonso doesn't care?

Alonso Punches Out His Wall

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Alonso Punches Out His Wall

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Maybe someone was sitting in his favourite lounger!
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Old 28 Sep 2017, 16:37 (Ref:3770314)   #210
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Alonso Punches Out His Wall

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What a tiresome baby
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What a tiresome baby
You've had an addition to your family? Congratulations........
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You've had an addition to your family? Congratulations........
No, just upset that Alonso has more passion than me, think I need to trash a bus stop or something to express myself
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That would be criminal damage.
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