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Old 28 Nov 2019, 19:20 (Ref:3943459)   #1
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How's your interest for each of the ACO championships & classes looking for 2020 I wonder? Rate according to these:

5 = Extremely interested
4 = Pretty interested
3 = Moderately/somewhat interested
2 = Not particularly interested
1 = Not interested at all
N/A = Don't know

(Yes I know entry lists aren't known or even guessed for all yet, but this is more of a general feel of things sort of survey)

WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2019-2020 (Remaining regular races)
General:
LMP1:
LMP2:
LMGTE-PRO:
LMGTE-AM:

LE MANS 24 HOURS 2020
General:
LMP1:
LMP2:
LMGTE-PRO:
LMGTE-AM:

WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2020-2021
General:
Hypercar:
LMP2:
LMGTE-PRO:
LMGTE-AM:

EUROPEAN LE MANS SERIES 2020
General:
LMP2:
LMP3:
LMGTE(-AM):

ASIAN LE MANS SERIES 2019-2020 (Remaining)
General:
LMP2:
LMP2-AM:
LMP3:
GT(3):

MICHELIN LE MANS CUP 2020
General:
LMP3:
GT3:

LIGIER EUROPEAN CUP 2020
General:
Class 1 (Ligier JS P4):
Class 2 (Ligier JS2R):

And finally, even though not ACO championship as per say, it probably needs to be here:

IMSA WEATHERTECH SPORTSCAR CHAMPIONSHIP 2020
General:
DPi:
LMP2:
GTLM:
GTD:
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Old 28 Nov 2019, 19:36 (Ref:3943463)   #2
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WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2019-2020
General: 2
LMP1: 2
LMP2: 2
LMGTE-PRO: 1
LMGTE-AM: 1

LE MANS 24 HOURS 2020
General: 4
LMP1: 4 (there are no success penalties at LM so it should be good for one last time)
LMP2: 3-4 (depending on grid)
LMGTE-PRO: 1
LMGTE-AM: 1-3 (I guess if Fassbender is there he could provide interesting documentary at least)

WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2020-2021
General: 2
Hypercar: 1
LMP2: 2-3 (depending on grid)
LMGTE-PRO: 1
LMGTE-AM: 1

EUROPEAN LE MANS SERIES 2020
General: 2-3 (depending on below)
LMP2: 2-3 (depending on grid)
LMP3: 2-3 (depending on how the upgraded 2020 cars perform/are)
LMGTE(-AM): 1

ASIAN LE MANS SERIES 2019-2020
General: 4 (judging from Shanghai)
LMP2: 4 (judging from Shanghai)
LMP2-AM: 4 (judging from Shanghai)
LMP3: 1
GT(3): 1

MICHELIN LE MANS CUP 2020
General: 2
LMP3: 2-3 (depending on how the upgraded 2020 cars perform/are)
GT3: 1

LIGIER EUROPEAN CUP 2020
General: 1-2 (maybe watch the first race)
Class 1 (Ligier JS P4): 1
Class 2 (Ligier JS2R): 1

IMSA WEATHERTECH SPORTSCAR CHAMPIONSHIP 2020
General: 2
DPi: 1
LMP2: 2-3 (the promised joke-Riley in the mix of Orecas lol, it's actually somewhat interesting in theory)
GTLM: 1
GTD: 1
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Old 28 Nov 2019, 20:58 (Ref:3943476)   #3
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Nice thread. Just a casual fan of some and some more than others.


WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2019-2020 (Remaining regular races)
General:
LMP1:1
LMP2:1
LMGTE-PRO:2
LMGTE-AM:2

LE MANS 24 HOURS 2020
General:
LMP1:4- Reason higher than normal WEC is Le Mans.
LMP2:4
LMGTE-PRO:4
LMGTE-AM:4

WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2020-2021
General:
Hypercar:4 TBC- Either good or mediocre
LMP2:2- Not a fan of LMP2
LMGTE-PRO:3- Depends of amount of Manufacturers
LMGTE-AM:2

EUROPEAN LE MANS SERIES 2020
General:
LMP2:3
LMP3:3
LMGTE(-AM):2

ASIAN LE MANS SERIES 2019-2020 (Remaining)
General:
LMP2:2
LMP2-AM:1
LMP3:2
GT(3):2

MICHELIN LE MANS CUP 2020
General:
LMP3:5-Big fan of this series. Just look at the last rounds last half hour title decider.
GT3:3

LIGIER EUROPEAN CUP 2020
General:
Class 1 (Ligier JS P4):1
Class 2 (Ligier JS2R):1

IMSA WEATHERTECH SPORTSCAR CHAMPIONSHIP 2020
General:
DPi:2
LMP2:1
GTLM:1
GTD:1
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Old 28 Nov 2019, 22:59 (Ref:3943501)   #4
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WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2019-2020 (Remaining regular races)
General: 2
LMP1: 1
LMP2: 1
LMGTE-PRO: 1
LMGTE-AM: 1

LE MANS 24 HOURS 2020
General: 2
LMP1: 2
LMP2: 1
LMGTE-PRO: 1
LMGTE-AM: 1

WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2020-2021
General: 3
Hypercar: 3
LMP2: 2
LMGTE-PRO: 1
LMGTE-AM: 1

EUROPEAN LE MANS SERIES 2020
General: 1
LMP2: 1
LMP3: 1
LMGTE(-AM): 1

ASIAN LE MANS SERIES 2019-2020 (Remaining)
General: 1
LMP2: 1
LMP2-AM: 1
LMP3: 1
GT(3): 1

MICHELIN LE MANS CUP 2020
General: 1
LMP3: 1
GT3: 1

LIGIER EUROPEAN CUP 2020
General: 0
Class 1 (Ligier JS P4): 0
Class 2 (Ligier JS2R): 0



IMSA WEATHERTECH SPORTSCAR CHAMPIONSHIP 2020
General: 4
DPi: 4
LMP2: 3
GTLM: 2
GTD: 3
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WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2019-2020 (Remaining regular races)
General: 3
LMP1: 2
LMP2: 2
LMGTE-PRO:2
LMGTE-AM: 2

LE MANS 24 HOURS 2020
General: 5
LMP1: 3
LMP2: 2
LMGTE-PRO: 4
LMGTE-AM: 4

WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2020-2021
General: 3
Hypercar: 3
LMP2: 2
LMGTE-PRO: 2
LMGTE-AM: 2

EUROPEAN LE MANS SERIES 2020
General: 3
LMP2: 2
LMP3: 1
LMGTE(-AM): 2

ASIAN LE MANS SERIES 2019-2020 (Remaining)
General: 1
LMP2: 1
LMP2-AM: 1
LMP3: 1
GT(3): 1

MICHELIN LE MANS CUP 2020
General: 2
LMP3: 1
GT3: 2

LIGIER EUROPEAN CUP 2020
General: 1
Class 1 (Ligier JS P4): 1
Class 2 (Ligier JS2R): 1

And finally, even though not ACO championship as per say, it probably needs to be here:

IMSA WEATHERTECH SPORTSCAR CHAMPIONSHIP 2020
General: 4
DPi: 4
LMP2: 1
GTLM: 4
GTD: 3


Basically: Meh. It's not terrible. It's not good. It's eh. Le Mans is different because it's Le Mans.
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Old 30 Nov 2019, 19:56 (Ref:3943887)   #6
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How's your interest for each of the ACO championships & classes looking for 2020 I wonder? Rate according to these:

5 = Extremely interested
4 = Pretty interested
3 = Moderately/somewhat interested
2 = Not particularly interested
1 = Not interested at all
N/A = Don't know

(Yes I know entry lists aren't known or even guessed for all yet, but this is more of a general feel of things sort of survey)

WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2019-2020 (Remaining regular races)
General:
LMP1: 3
LMP2: 1
LMGTE-PRO: 3
LMGTE-AM: 2

LE MANS 24 HOURS 2020
General: 5
LMP1: 3
LMP2: 1
LMGTE-PRO: 5
LMGTE-AM: 2

WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2020-2021
General:
Hypercar: 5
LMP2: 1
LMGTE-PRO: 5
LMGTE-AM: 1

EUROPEAN LE MANS SERIES 2020
General:
LMP2: 1
LMP3: 1
LMGTE(-AM): 1

ASIAN LE MANS SERIES 2019-2020 (Remaining)
General:
LMP2: 1
LMP2-AM: 1
LMP3: 1
GT(3): 1

MICHELIN LE MANS CUP 2020
General:
LMP3: 1
GT3: 1

LIGIER EUROPEAN CUP 2020
General:
Class 1 (Ligier JS P4): 1
Class 2 (Ligier JS2R):1

And finally, even though not ACO championship as per say, it probably needs to be here:

IMSA WEATHERTECH SPORTSCAR CHAMPIONSHIP 2020
General: 5
DPi: 3
LMP2: 1
GTLM: 5
GTD: 5
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WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2019-2020 (Remaining regular races)
General:2
LMP1:2
LMP2:1
LMGTE-PRO:3
LMGTE-AM:1

LE MANS 24 HOURS 2020
General:4
LMP1:4
LMP2:1
LMGTE-PRO:5
LMGTE-AM:1

WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2020-2021
General:1
Hypercar:1
LMP2:1
LMGTE-PRO:3
LMGTE-AM:1

EUROPEAN LE MANS SERIES 2020
General:2
LMP2:1
LMP3:2
LMGTE(-AM):1

ASIAN LE MANS SERIES 2019-2020 (Remaining)
General:1
LMP2:1
LMP2-AM:1
LMP3:1
GT(3):1

MICHELIN LE MANS CUP 2020
General:1
LMP3:1
GT3:1

LIGIER EUROPEAN CUP 2020
General:0
Class 1 (Ligier JS P4):0
Class 2 (Ligier JS2R):0 (I hoped I would be quite off the track with 0, but it's rather popular)

And finally, even though not ACO championship as per say, it probably needs to be here:

IMSA WEATHERTECH SPORTSCAR CHAMPIONSHIP 2020
General:5
DPi:5
LMP2:1
GTLM:5
GTD:4
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Knowing your stand on technology and so forth, I'm quite surprised to see your interest level regarding DPI and GTE-PRO & GTD, helgi?
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Knowing your stand on technology and so forth, I'm quite surprised to see your interest level regarding DPI and GTE-PRO & GTD, helgi?

Just new cars, not racing itself. Japanese sites have some decent digging into "hardware" of each GT3 for example. As for DPI they are "broadcasted" better and ranked so high just in comparison with LMP2.
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How's your interest for each of the ACO championships & classes looking for 2020 I wonder? Rate according to these:

5 = Extremely interested
4 = Pretty interested
3 = Moderately/somewhat interested
2 = Not particularly interested
1 = Not interested at all
N/A = Don't know

WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2019-2020 (Remaining regular races)
General: 3 (mainly just for the potential of 'what could be')
LMP1: 2
LMP2: 2
LMGTE-PRO: 1
LMGTE-AM: N/A

LE MANS 24 HOURS 2020
General: 5 (because of (future) entry list speculation)
LMP1: 1 (another Toyota snooze fest)
LMP2: 3
LMGTE-PRO: 3
LMGTE-AM: N/A

WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2020-2021
General: 4 (should be an improvement over this season + let's announce more full time entries and more guest entries please.)
Hypercar: 6 if DPi is to be included!
LMP2: 2
LMGTE-PRO: 1
LMGTE-AM: N/A

EUROPEAN LE MANS SERIES 2020
General: 4
LMP2: 3
LMP3: N/A (but glad they're there)
LMGTE(-AM): N/A (see above)

ASIAN LE MANS SERIES 2019-2020 (Remaining)
General: 3
LMP2: 2
LMP2-AM: 2
LMP3: N/A
GT(3): 2 (for the sake of variety)

MICHELIN LE MANS CUP 2020
General: N/A
LMP3:
GT3:

LIGIER EUROPEAN CUP 2020
General: what's this??
Class 1 (Ligier JS P4):
Class 2 (Ligier JS2R):

And finally, even though not ACO championship as per say, it probably needs to be here:

IMSA WEATHERTECH SPORTSCAR CHAMPIONSHIP 2020
General: 4 (the majority of the tracks on the schedule are the real stars here!)
DPi: 4
LMP2: 3
GTLM: 3
GTD: 4
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Knowing your stand on technology and so forth, I'm quite surprised to see your interest level regarding DPI and GTE-PRO & GTD, helgi?
Totally OT, but here's something I've been wondering: Are you guys at all interested in sailing? I know it's not motorsports, but the technological arms races and loophole exploitation going on in the America's Cup and in some other classes are everything and more than what you guys are missing in racing right now! With IDEC, there's even a sportscar team involved at the top level. And the new (formerly Volvo) Ocean Race rules are an example of an event actually going back from spec to an open class.
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Totally OT, but here's something I've been wondering: Are you guys at all interested in sailing? I know it's not motorsports, but the technological arms races and loophole exploitation going on in the America's Cup and in some other classes are everything and more than what you guys are missing in racing right now! With IDEC, there's even a sportscar team involved at the top level. And the new (formerly Volvo) Ocean Race rules are an example of an event actually going back from spec to an open class.
I think sailing is a smaller closed club than horse racing for example. Tech info is not as simple to get as in case with car racing. Would be interesting to read though.

And, in fact, looks like a glimpse of the future for racing: existing but almost unknown.
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Totally OT, but here's something I've been wondering: Are you guys at all interested in sailing? I know it's not motorsports, but the technological arms races and loophole exploitation going on in the America's Cup and in some other classes are everything and more than what you guys are missing in racing right now! With IDEC, there's even a sportscar team involved at the top level. And the new (formerly Volvo) Ocean Race rules are an example of an event actually going back from spec to an open class.
Hmm, I did look into it a few years ago but thought following it would be incredibly hard? I mean But sounds interesting, especially the last line of yours, perhaps there is hope yet for some areas of sporting world?

Currently the only sport outside motorsports I do follow is the IBSF Skeleton World Cup, and with the things the way they are here right now in sportscars with bop and spec dominating, it is probably my favorite thing out there. And new season started today!
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WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2019-2020 (Remaining regular races)
General: 2
LMP1: 3 (The whole system is ridiculous but it feels like one of those crazy ideas I’d like to see secretly but didn’t think it would ever happen... until now. Hoping some weirdness in the upcoming races makes it a good battle until Le Mans)
LMP2: 2
LMGTE-PRO: 2
LMGTE-AM: 1

LE MANS 24 HOURS 2020
General: 4
LMP1: 3 (Hoping one of the Toyotas cracks early)
LMP2: 2
LMGTE-PRO: 1 (The mandated fuel stints have killed GT for me at Le Mans)
LMGTE-AM: 1

WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2020-2021
General: 3
Hypercar: 4 (I hope it’s worth the long wait!)
LMP2: 2
LMGTE-PRO: 2
LMGTE-AM: 1

EUROPEAN LE MANS SERIES 2020
General: 1
LMP2: 2
LMP3: 1
LMGTE(-AM): 1

ASIAN LE MANS SERIES 2019-2020 (Remaining)
General: 1
LMP2: 1
LMP2-AM: 1
LMP3: 1
GT(3): 1

MICHELIN LE MANS CUP 2020
General: 1
LMP3: 1
GT3: 1

LIGIER EUROPEAN CUP 2020
General: 1
Class 1 (Ligier JS P4): 1
Class 2 (Ligier JS2R): 1

And finally, even though not ACO championship as per say, it probably needs to be here:

IMSA WEATHERTECH SPORTSCAR CHAMPIONSHIP 2020
General: 2
DPi: 2
LMP2: 2
GTLM: 2
GTD: 2
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Hmm, I did look into it a few years ago but thought following it would be incredibly hard? I mean But sounds interesting, especially the last line of yours, perhaps there is hope yet for some areas of sporting world?

Currently the only sport outside motorsports I do follow is the IBSF Skeleton World Cup, and with the things the way they are here right now in sportscars with bop and spec dominating, it is probably my favorite thing out there. And new season started today!
I guess you get Martin Haven TV commentary in the end either way. He does bobsled, skeleton, and luge in the winter I think.
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I guess you get Martin Haven TV commentary in the end either way. He does bobsled, skeleton, and luge in the winter I think.
He does Skeleton and Bobsleigh WC but not Luge (except in the olympics) as that is organized by FIL, not IBSF

Unlike the previous weekend, this week he was not at Lake Placid due to conflict with Bahrain of course. I actually think his style of commentary suits sliding better than motorsports, especially as IBSF is comparatively small and closed circle so you get to know every athlete a little bit better
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WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2019-2020 (Remaining regular races)
General:4
LMP1:5
LMP2:4
LMGTE-PRO:4
LMGTE-AM:3

LE MANS 24 HOURS 2020
General:5
LMP1:5
LMP2:5
LMGTE-PRO:4
LMGTE-AM:4

WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP 2020-2021
General:4
Hypercar:4
LMP2:4
LMGTE-PRO:4
LMGTE-AM:4

EUROPEAN LE MANS SERIES 2020
General:2
LMP2:2
LMP3:1
LMGTE(-AM):2

ASIAN LE MANS SERIES 2019-2020 (Remaining)
General:2
LMP2:2
LMP2-AM:1
LMP3:1
GT(3):1

MICHELIN LE MANS CUP 2020
General:1
LMP3:1
GT3:1

LIGIER EUROPEAN CUP 2020
General:1
Class 1 (Ligier JS P4):1
Class 2 (Ligier JS2R):1

And finally, even though not ACO championship as per say, it probably needs to be here:

IMSA WEATHERTECH SPORTSCAR CHAMPIONSHIP 2020
General:3
DPi:3
LMP2:3
GTLM:1
GTD:1
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helgi should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridhelgi should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridhelgi should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Considering level of technical details (absolute zero) in media, I'll replace my overoptimistic "bid" for IMSA.

IMSA WEATHERTECH SPORTSCAR CHAMPIONSHIP 2020
General:4 instead of 5 (just because of superb race tracks)
DPi:2 instead of 5 (no tech news, stagnation)
LMP2:1
GTLM:3 instead of 5 (few news from P'n'M, 10 years ago there would have been tons of tech articles everywhere, not now)
GTD:2 instead of 4 (comparing with Super GT, no news at all)
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