Petit Le Mans 2020 - Page 4

Ferrari333SP · 18 Oct 2020, 02:08 (Ref:4011273)

Ahhh, Farfus was then punted off the track, causing a pit stop to clear gravel. Looks like a Porsche win now

broadrun96 · 18 Oct 2020, 02:20 (Ref:4011275)

It's Porsche in IMSA in 2020, stranger things have happened already this year.

Ferrari333SP · 18 Oct 2020, 02:30 (Ref:4011277)

WOW

Totally Ricky's fault; went for a gap that wasn't his to take

fieldodreams79 · 18 Oct 2020, 02:30 (Ref:4011278)

Damnit

Maelochs · 18 Oct 2020, 02:31 (Ref:4011279)

Good lord what a stupid move. Might work in NASCAR, but .....

What a drag.

JHamilton · 18 Oct 2020, 02:33 (Ref:4011280)

****.

gert · 18 Oct 2020, 02:34 (Ref:4011281)

The only one who will probably be happy with Ricky's move is his father.

gert · 18 Oct 2020, 02:35 (Ref:4011282)

31 & 7, no action.

Seriously?
Some of the decisions today ... :/

Ferrari333SP · 18 Oct 2020, 02:37 (Ref:4011283)

Dumb passing move by Vanthoor in the Porsche as well

broadrun96 · 18 Oct 2020, 02:37 (Ref:4011284)

F Ricky Taylor. Learn to drive, you're fast at top end idiot, pass at 1 or 10 like a grown-up. Thanks for killing the end of the race

WyldStallion · 18 Oct 2020, 02:46 (Ref:4011286)

Petit Le Mans very often produces winners from teams that have not won at all during the course of the year. Happened again with Porsche GT team and Weathertech Ferrari. Congrats on getting off the goose egg on the scoreboard.

**joeb** · 18 Oct 2020, 02:53 (Ref:4011287)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gert

The only one who will probably be happy with Ricky's move is his father.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gert

31 & 7, no action.

Seriously?
Some of the decisions today ... :/

I haven't seen it,I was at turn 4 but sounds like it was a low percentage move and basically ruined the race for all of us who were watching

WyldStallion · 18 Oct 2020, 03:04 (Ref:4011288)

Found dumbest move of the year award winner.

broadrun96 · 18 Oct 2020, 03:09 (Ref:4011289)

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Originally Posted by WyldStallion

Found dumbest move of the year award winner.

Well Penske is letting him go next month so there's that. Oh wait, Daddy's gonna give him a ride

WyldStallion · 18 Oct 2020, 03:16 (Ref:4011290)

Great story on Racer about the Porsche 2015 victory.

https://racer.com/2020/10/17/retro-t...petit-le-mans/

carbsmith · 18 Oct 2020, 03:24 (Ref:4011292)

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Originally Posted by joeb

I haven't seen it,I was at turn 4 but sounds like it was a low percentage move and basically ruined the race for all of us who were watching

Not as low percentage as the braking zone chop the other car did. Inside, outside, brake, inside in about the space of a second.

fieldodreams79 · 19 Oct 2020, 12:46 (Ref:4011496)

From the onboard, Pipo did come down a bit after throwing at least one defensive move, but Taylor wasn't even half way up once the contact was made. Pipo could've had let out of it, but he was entitled to the racing line, imo and in another couple of corners, Taylor would've probably been able to make an easy pass based on his pace. In the end, we were all robbed a bit of a good finish to a more than decent race.

I still had fun!

Akrapovic · 21 Oct 2020, 10:43 (Ref:4011783)

They didn't make contact from a chop or defensive move. They made contact because Pipo turned into the corner on the line and there was a car trying to force its way into an every closing wedge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKpw-dUxV_g

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fieldodreams79 · 21 Oct 2020, 11:46 (Ref:4011799)

So we agree.

broadrun96 · 21 Oct 2020, 13:35 (Ref:4011825)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

They didn't make contact from a chop or defensive move. They made contact because Pipo turned into the corner on the line and there was a car trying to force its way into an every closing wedge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKpw-dUxV_g

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Ssshhhhh, that type of actual thought will get you banished from the IMSA facebook page. There were threats and "physics" of how Pipo was blocking so he deserved it for turning in on Taylor. Amazed at the number of racers who think tight in to 6 is the right line. Oh wait, they don't even play Forza never mind anything else

fieldodreams79 · 21 Oct 2020, 15:47 (Ref:4011833)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Ssshhhhh, that type of actual thought will get you banished from the IMSA facebook page. There were threats and "physics" of how Pipo was blocking so he deserved it for turning in on Taylor. Amazed at the number of racers who think tight in to 6 is the right line. Oh wait, they don't even play Forza never mind anything else

Wait. I thought you were banned or stopped paying attention to that Group years ago....

carbsmith · 21 Oct 2020, 17:33 (Ref:4011848)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

They didn't make contact from a chop or defensive move. They made contact because Pipo turned into the corner on the line and there was a car trying to force its way into an every closing wedge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKpw-dUxV_g

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I figured this would come up, but Derani was already turning right a mile before there was any corner to turn in to. Exactly how banzai Taylor's move was is hard to judge for me in the dark and with the circumstances (anyone saying how he was far on the inside or going to go in the grass or whatever isn't paying attention to why he ended up there or needs to start looking where Derani was relative to the GT cars in front and behind, but he wasn't alongside at all when the other car braked so it's not ideal. My suspicion is Pipo may have braked early to try to time his pass on the Corvette in front of them between 6 and 7 making a surprise move a kind of possibility when he opened the inside initially), but what I do know is the #31 would or at least should have had a flagrant blocking penalty in most contemporary series that aren't NASCAR anyways.

...and he would have been absolutely plowed without remorse instead in NASCAR.

So the winner in all of this is still the #10 for not getting dragged into Formula Ford antics.

broadrun96 · 21 Oct 2020, 20:16 (Ref:4011865)

There wasn't space for Taylor full stop. That is all that's needed. He didn't avoid the collision so guilty. Whether Pipo blocked or not if immaterial. Never mind the fact that Taylor is an ass and has done that multiple times before so eff him he needed to be penalized at least to the position of the car he put off track.

gert · 21 Oct 2020, 20:37 (Ref:4011868)

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Originally Posted by carbsmith

...but what I do know is the #31 would or at least should have had a flagrant blocking penalty in most contemporary series that aren't NASCAR anyways.

I don't see it that way.
In my view, that was Taylor's mistake (much) more than Derani's.
The fact that Race Control decide 'no further action' is possibly a sad precedence. #7 gets to keep the second place while its rival is out of the race and gets credited with 6th (or what was it?). Not good, and IMO: not fair.
TBH I thought race cntrol had a few surprising and disappointing decisions that evening, not just that one.

Ricky Taylor re-gains a bit of respect for taking Derani apart and talking with him one-on-one. Way better than Derani being physically annoyed by Jordan Taylor and Castroneves who were both not involved in that incident.

canaglia · 21 Oct 2020, 20:43 (Ref:4011869)

derani was trying to defend the position covering the inside, taylor tried to overtake him divebombing but he simply was too overconfident since there wasn't enough space.
It's more or less what tried to do leclerc with vettel during second austrian gp start.

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