[BTCC] Round Four, Oulton Park 31 Jul-01 Aug, Races 10,11&12

[Greem]

To clear up the red flag debate: if there's any doubt as to the condition of a driver and a medical unit has to attend, then a session will be stopped. If there's barrier damage, a session will be stopped. If there's considerable debris/oil/fluid down, a session will be stopped.

Oulton was pretty much a perfect storm in that respect.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by hen henths

Me too. I missed why Cook struggled in qualifying and went backwards in Race 1. Was it just the ballast? He fought back well though.

Started 13th, moved to 12th on the first lap and stayed there until the red flag.
Was given a 5s penalty for being out of position on the grid, and so moved back to 18th for the restart.
Climbed to 15th - was then running in 14th for a few laps, before Sutton got ahead, so he finished in 15th.

[hen henths]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

btcc had two red flags in 3 races. not six

Yes but there were six red flags on Sunday including the support races.

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Started 13th, moved to 12th on the first lap and stayed there until the red flag.
Was given a 5s penalty for being out of position on the grid, and so moved back to 18th for the restart.
Climbed to 15th - was then running in 14th for a few laps, before Sutton got ahead, so he finished in 15th.

Thank you.

[sceptic]

Originally Posted by hen henths

Six red flags has to be some kind of record, and not one we want. I wonder if some of those incidents would've been handled with a safety car in the past and they were being extra careful after the tragic events at Brands Hatch.

Undoubtedly - I the Ginetta Junior red flag for example would have been handled with a safety car on a different day.

On a lighter note, this leaves the championship wide open and I can't wait for Knockhill.

Yes, Rowbottom, Butcher, Shedden and Morgan have all got a lot closer to the top two now. And while Hill didn't get on the podium, he did score in all three races for the first time since Thruxton.

[S griffin]

It depends how damaged the barriers were in that Ginetta race. It looked like it could be cleared under a SC, but we’ll never know

Championship is getting closer. Rowbo has done a brilliant job with that car. We’ll see what more Butcher can do in a car he has at times struggled to get to grips. Shedden has been a bit unlucky, but really good work by Morgan, he’s really keeping a good score. And yes Hill floated under the radar a bit, but at least he got three decent results, his best since Thruxton

[billy bleach]

Just read the Autosport report from Oulton Shedden quote about following his team mate in race one says it all about the current anarchy in BTCC " Had it been a driver from another team , who knows what would have happened" . We can only guess....TOCA needs to get a grip - and not just of BTCC

[pimmy]

What else is there for TOCA to get a grip of?

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by pimmy

What else is there for TOCA to get a grip of?

Ash Sutton ?

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by pimmy

What else is there for TOCA to get a grip of?

Minis, Porches, Ginettas , its there show

[pimmy]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Minis, Porches, Ginettas , its there show

TOCA don't control the supporting series.

[S griffin]

Watching the highlights on ITV4 right now. Weird how it all turned out

Pre race: everyone saying it’s between Sutton and Tingram for the title

Qualifying: suddenly the advantage is with Sutton

R1: Sutton falls back after first lap incident

R2: both make a great recovery

Reverse grid draw: people saying ‘this is a guaranteed win for Sutton’

R3: Sutton goes out on lap 1 of the restart, now people are looking to Tingram. Tingram then goes into the pits, suddenly the championship is a lot more wide open

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Just read the Autosport report from Oulton Shedden quote about following his team mate in race one says it all about the current anarchy in BTCC " Had it been a driver from another team , who knows what would have happened" . We can only guess....

You mean a driver in a team publicly admitted that they may have made more effort to overtake another car if it wasn't from the same team? Shocking!

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

You mean a driver in a team publicly admitted that they may have made more effort to overtake another car if it wasn't from the same team? Shocking!

You absolutely know that is not what I meant but hey any excuse for a row eh?

[AnnoyedMoose]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

You absolutely know that is not what I meant but hey any excuse for a row eh?

Well yes but to be fair it's not what you meant that matters it's what Shedden meant and you were assuming that he meant what you did.

[stuart thompson]

Must admit though that Turkingon has has to work a lot harder to get past his team mates, and in the case of Sutton it’s like the parting of the Red Sea when he’s coming through.

[psq43]

Originally Posted by stuart thompson

in the case of Sutton it’s like the parting of the Red Sea when he’s coming through.

Must admit, you're not the first to suggest that. More than once of late, its been suggested that people don't put up much resistance to one, compared to the other.

[S griffin]

I thought Jelley did quite well against him in R2, certainly they had a good battle there