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15 Apr 2023, 19:46 (Ref:4151658) | #1 | |
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Track safety: That is such a warning shot (real event trigger warning)
https://www.autosport.com/wec/news/f...rash/10456352/
At Portimao (of all places) during a support series event on the WEC weekend, a Porsche crashed and jumped over the carch fencing into the empty grandstand behind. Even though tis is largely a fantasy track design board, I post this here because it seems fitting as the only place on tentenths dedicated to racetracks exclusively. So let's talk about improving track safety here. Looking at the 2nd picture in the article, it seems like putting the fence directly behind the guardrail behind the tyre barrier could have prevented the car from moving over it into the grandstand - if the tyre barrier acted as some sort of a ramp. What do you think? The distance between the guardrail and the tyre barrier also played a role in the difficult on site recovery at Silverstone in F1 when Guanyu Zhou's car got stuck in between both of those elements. The positioning of the fence in the photo from Portimao makes it look like it may be only there to prevent spectators from getting into the lane behind the barrier that is built for track marshal vehicles to travel on. |
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16 Apr 2023, 02:24 (Ref:4151692) | #2 | ||
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yeah, the problem is there needs to be enough distance to fit a truck/crane in. it looks to me like the second fence is both too short and not enough posts to hold a car. looking at the tracks in the gravel trap in one image I saw, it looks like the car barrel rolls and could have hopped over the tyre barrier. if anyone has seen a video to confirm this would be helpful.
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17 Apr 2023, 10:05 (Ref:4151975) | #4 | ||
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when I say second fence, I mean the perimeter fence. The barrier would be the first fence.
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17 Apr 2023, 15:37 (Ref:4152009) | #5 | ||
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video of the incident..
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2wWvF9hd5Zo |
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Looking at the pictures:
armco barrier has folded backwards which may have provided a launch ramp catch fencing has failed and been demolished The problem with putting catch fence at the barrier is marshals gaps meaning you can neither stay behind the barrier to communicate nor get over the barrier at the site if needed and so marshal access is severely compromised. |
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what interests me is it looks like the tracks in the gravel stop in the circle Last edited by kerb; 19 Apr 2023 at 07:36. |
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