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View Poll Results: Which Team will triumph at Le Mans 2023
JOTA 2 20.00%
Prema Racing 2 20.00%
Team WRT 0 0%
United Autosports 3 30.00%
Inter Europol Competition 0 0%
COOL Racing 1 10.00%
IDEC Sport 0 0%
Duqueine Team 0 0%
Vector Sport 0 0%
Racing Team Turkey 1 10.00%
Nielsen Racing 0 0%
Panis Racing 0 0%
Alpine Elf Team 0 0%
Graff Racing 0 0%
Algarve Pro Racing 1 10.00%
AF Corse 0 0%
DKR Engineering 0 0%
Tower Motorsports 0 0%
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Old 9 Jun 2023, 01:37 (Ref:4160914)   #1
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RankCarFastestTop 20Top 40Top 60LapsPro/Am
128 JOTA3:33.0353:36.7473:38.2923:39.483128 
263 Prema Racing3:33.9833:36.8613:38.3953:39.512129 
341 Team WRT3:33.2403:37.1833:38.7333:39.786137 
422 United Autosports3:35.5873:37.7493:38.8323:39.742123 
523 United Autosports3:35.5193:37.9993:38.9793:39.999121 
69 Prema Racing3:34.6583:37.6133:39.0313:40.004140 
734 Inter Europol Competition3:35.7553:38.1303:39.1643:40.317107 
847 COOL Racing3:33.5803:37.7953:39.9153:41.364125 
948 IDEC Sport3:32.9233:37.3683:39.9483:42.053102 
1030 Duqueine Team3:37.2133:38.8773:39.9603:41.435104 
1137 COOL Racing3:34.6113:38.2933:40.0293:42.586101Pro/Am
1210 Vector Sport3:34.9853:38.5653:40.1063:41.237131 
13923 Racing Team Turkey3:35.1763:38.3723:40.1813:42.163113Pro/Am
1431 Team WRT3:35.8533:38.7683:40.1813:42.17794 
1514 Nielsen Racing3:34.0213:37.5803:40.2023:42.842109Pro/Am
1665 Panis Racing3:35.6913:38.7473:40.2303:41.338120 
1636 Alpine Elf Team3:36.4713:39.5993:40.4743:41.204135 
1639 Graff Racing3:35.6523:39.1343:40.5333:42.277117Pro/Am
1645 Algarve Pro Racing3:35.5783:39.3453:41.4383:43.435132Pro/Am
1635 Alpine Elf Team3:37.4983:40.3233:41.5153:42.479120 
1680 AF Corse3:36.4833:39.0113:41.5753:43.938101Pro/Am
1643 DKR Engineering3:35.9513:39.5843:42.3413:44.705107Pro/Am
1613 Tower Motorsports3:38.4263:40.2953:43.2123:50.15773Pro/Am
1632 Inter Europol Competition3:38.2293:40.2883:43.2663:45.868109Pro/Am


Again we see a team with disappointing qualifying looking good in this measure.

Wow. It is close.

The lap time ranking chart is interesting. Look at the laps in the Top 10 - these are basically the qualifying laps. They must have been sandbagging at other times This really does show what naturally happens. It is less dramatic for United because they didn't run in hyperpole so did less of this pushing.
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I have used this as an excuse to start an LMP2 thread.

So who is going to be, there are a lot of strong teams.

Jota, Prema, United, WRT, or someone else?
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Too many to play roll a dice or flip a coin… Wanted to go for Prema but the United team looks more consistent and stronger. Another important factor is how good team players are the drivers of each team. Several young roosters in the hen house is aint good… After hours of race the car is semi toasted and the drivers still hungry! I go for Cool Racing just for the name!

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So many good teams and drivers in the class, it is hard to pick. Plus thinking back to how the race started last year with a couple of the favorites going out on the first lap, you just don't know how it will play out over 24 hours (or 24 seconds).
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rdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridrdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridrdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridrdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I think this one is to hard to pick. There are two many good team/drivers I guess it will come down to who has the cleanest run.
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It certainly is, as shown by the variation in votes so far.
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Interpol leads. No one voted for them.

Then United, WRT AF Corse, ...

They are all on similar strategy as they all came in when it started raining recently.
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Interpol leads. No one voted for them.

Then United, WRT AF Corse, ...

They are all on similar strategy as they all came in when it started raining recently.
I picked APR. But Inter is doing the job so far.
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3h 15 to go.

And Corvette are back in it.

#33 Corvette
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#25 ORT by TF
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And Corvette are back in it.

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You must need some sleep, your tables are getting pretty simple....


Also, this is the lmp2 thread.
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You must need some sleep, your tables are getting pretty simple....


Also, this is the lmp2 thread.
I'm tired - you are right.

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RankCarFastestTop 25Top 50Top 100LapsPro/Am
131 Team WRT3:36.0433:37.0953:37.7243:38.730327 
222 United Autosports3:36.7153:37.7743:38.3533:39.197321 
341 Team WRT3:36.1463:37.4973:38.2033:39.253328 
448 IDEC Sport3:36.2043:37.6273:38.2423:39.315327 
534 Inter Europol Competition3:36.7393:38.0833:38.5563:39.368328 
623 United Autosports3:37.2003:38.2613:38.7173:39.430323 
736 Alpine Elf Team3:37.4063:38.1263:38.6843:39.610327 
830 Duqueine Team3:36.6073:38.3003:38.8863:39.664327 
99 Prema Racing3:37.8153:38.6823:39.2253:39.965310 
1039 Graff Racing3:37.3123:38.4003:39.0873:40.223303Pro/Am
1128 JOTA3:37.3003:38.6213:39.3373:40.242316 
1265 Panis Racing3:37.5253:38.5653:39.3493:40.444316 
1337 COOL Racing3:37.0733:38.5663:39.3163:40.903317Pro/Am
1443 DKR Engineering3:37.7953:39.3373:40.1253:41.404311Pro/Am
1510 Vector Sport3:37.7193:39.7353:40.3973:41.439325 
1635 Alpine Elf Team3:38.0633:40.2293:40.9923:41.980322 
1745 Algarve Pro Racing3:38.0103:40.6803:41.3053:42.325322Pro/Am
1880 AF Corse3:39.8073:40.9203:42.0743:46.711183Pro/Am
1947 COOL Racing3:37.3383:40.5363:41.6573:53.469158 
2032 Inter Europol Competition3:39.3883:43.8183:49.2754:33.374117Pro/Am
2163 Prema Racing3:39.2703:41.6093:49.4184:38.700113 
22923 Racing Team Turkey3:37.5943:44.8474:00.346NA87Pro/Am
2313 Tower Motorsports3:39.086NANANA19Pro/Am
2414 Nielsen Racing3:44.189NANANA18Pro/Am
The winner is 5th on this list, but they claim the top spot in drivers with a broken foot. Like for Lintilla it seemed to have helped.

WRT were the strongest here - I think we saw that, but they couldn't quite get it done at the end.

United certainly looked stronger than their qualifying suggested. No surprise there, the practice data showed that too.

Prema and JOTA surprisingly low?
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On the race result - well done nobody! We're all useless.

No one even said WRT who came 2nd (and 5th). Or Duqueine who were 3rd. Did someone say Alpine who came 4th? No. IDEC in 6th? No. Vector 7th? No.

OK, who was 8th? United! Three of us said that and it was the most common answer. Sort of well done to Adam43, JT240Z, kartman24.

Pathetic. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
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The battle to win Le Mans!

To really tell the battle for the win other cars could be included, but I've kept it simple and just those that finished on the podium.

SC and FCY are shown. Slow zone laps are not. A spike up the car pitted before the leader, a spike down and it was after. There was a FCY on lap 236 (for the race leader), this doesn't appear on this chart because it wasn't out when the winner of LMP2 crossed the line.

A reminder that #34 was in the lead for a long time in this race. They really took it the "bigger" teams.
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The battle to win Le Mans!

To really tell the battle for the win other cars could be included, but I've kept it simple and just those that finished on the podium.

SC and FCY are shown. Slow zone laps are not. A spike up the car pitted before the leader, a spike down and it was after. There was a FCY on lap 236 (for the race leader), this doesn't appear on this chart because it wasn't out when the winner of LMP2 crossed the line.

A reminder that #34 was in the lead for a long time in this race. They really took it the "bigger" teams.
that is a really cool graph! I didn't realize how much of the race Inter was leading for.
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So UA did have the speed, but were let down by incidents (mostly of their own making). That might be a small, but significant, part of their lack of LMH/LMDH partnership...
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that is a really cool graph! I didn't realize how much of the race Inter was leading for.
Ah, I have just realised something. It is how much it was leading out of those three cars.

However it was still a lot. It led 204 laps in the race. Including the last 112. It’s firstled was lap 72. From 120 it swapped the lead with 30 and 41. Presumably mainly due to pit stops.
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Hop to it! https://twitter.com/ie_competition/s...577240576?s=61

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As someone who worked through a completely broken foot last fall, I know that is a terribly annoying injury. He did way better than me!
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He has been using his left foot till the end, not easy to jump on the brakes given the injuries. Yes, great win, just hope nothing non-compliant will be found on the car.
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