Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Single Seater Racing > Club Level Single Seaters

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 15 Feb 2024, 11:54 (Ref:4196799)   #1
polruiz12
Rookie
 
Join Date: Feb 2024
Posts: 2
polruiz12 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Suspension System Project + technical drawings FF

Good morning guys,

I am Pol and I am a 4th year mechanical enginieering student from Spain, I am new to this forum as I've seen it is the best place to keep informed about Formula Ford cars.

Right now I am starting my final degree project which consists on the Design and Optimization of a Formula Ford suspension system.

I have a problem which is that as I am designing a suspension system withhout a reference chassis, I don't really know which dimensiones or chassis values take.

I have two options:
Designing a suspension system which can be fitted in a big group of cars (imagining I am an independent supplier of suspension system).
Designing a suspension system designed for a specifical car with a poor performance (I have been told that 84 Van Diemen and 85 Reynard are pretty bad cars) and improved the suspension they have.


I would like to get some advice from you, if possible, on chosing one of the 2 options and telling me models of car with bad performance based on your experience and if it's interesting or hypothetically feasible buying a new set of suspensions which improves their car.

The other main problem derived from that debate is obtaining technical drawing of some Formula Ford cars (if you can tell me some poor performances cars I would like to have those drawings) in order to design the suspension system within the dimensions. I would like to get some information to where or how to find them and if someone can provide me them.

From what I have seen, this is an incredible forum and I would love to receive first-hand help from you, any help will be welcomed and recognized in my final project report.

Thank you.
polruiz12 is offline  
Quote
Old 16 Feb 2024, 19:04 (Ref:4196960)   #2
Gerard C
Veteran
 
Gerard C's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
France
My place
Posts: 11,381
Gerard C is going for a new world record!Gerard C is going for a new world record!Gerard C is going for a new world record!Gerard C is going for a new world record!Gerard C is going for a new world record!Gerard C is going for a new world record!Gerard C is going for a new world record!
Hi polruiz. From my point of view, if you pick up the second option it will be hard to meet a real commercial success, I fear. The years you mention belong to a "period" making those cars which previously were FF becoming HFF, Historic Formula Ford, and the regulations are rather strict. Sure you can suggest better shocks but a full different and highly improved system will make tham not compliant. I seem to remeber that van Diement went from two shocks at front to a monoshock system abck in the day. This is only my opinion but don't worry, now one has posted an answer you'll see many showing up. Good luck, great project.
Gerard C is offline  
__________________
Celui qui est parti de rien pour arriver nulle part,n'a de merci a dire a personne.Pour ceux qui vont chercher midi a quatorze heures, la minute de Vérité risque de se faire attendre longtemps.
Quote
Old 18 Feb 2024, 09:28 (Ref:4197148)   #3
polruiz12
Rookie
 
Join Date: Feb 2024
Posts: 2
polruiz12 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Thank you for replying to the thread, I will keep in mind your feedback.
Right now I am starting to analyse the tires of the car and trying to locate the center of gravity (something a bit hard due to poor information about the whole list of components) to start designing the suspension.

I hope I can make it through.
polruiz12 is offline  
Quote
Old 18 Feb 2024, 13:46 (Ref:4197163)   #4
Gerard C
Veteran
 
Gerard C's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
France
My place
Posts: 11,381
Gerard C is going for a new world record!Gerard C is going for a new world record!Gerard C is going for a new world record!Gerard C is going for a new world record!Gerard C is going for a new world record!Gerard C is going for a new world record!Gerard C is going for a new world record!
May be you can take contact with a team in your area. Collecting data in situ is a good thing and young brains are often welcome. Yesterday "tools" were a pro monopoly but now you can do wonders with few money and a some knowledge.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/form...panayportugal/
If your location is northern part of Spain, try and make contact with a french team, if its southern may be a portuguese or spanish team can be a good idea.

The first line in your to do list can be studying the regulation.

French : http://www.formula-ford-historic.fr/...ent-technique/
GB: https://hscc.org.uk/championships/hi...-formula-ford/
Try and have contact with the Avon Motorsport offiicial distributor is a good idea. Direct to GB is a better one…
Gerard C is offline  
__________________
Celui qui est parti de rien pour arriver nulle part,n'a de merci a dire a personne.Pour ceux qui vont chercher midi a quatorze heures, la minute de Vérité risque de se faire attendre longtemps.
Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
effects of rear suspension on front suspension TEAM78 Racing Technology 11 6 May 2006 23:38
2003 points system Vs 2002 points system LucaBadoer Formula One 38 26 May 2003 11:17
Looking for F1 drawings and pictures sites Perry Cool Sites 1 2 Jan 2002 19:19
Technical Suspension Info? Shocking Formula One 6 6 Apr 2001 11:51


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:49.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.