Brabham BT10

[David Irwin]

I restored a BT10 that I bought from Bob McKay and sold to Joe Maria, which I believe he still retains. There were no numbers on that car at all.

Joe Maria also had another BT10, that I had some dealings with, this was F2-14-64, that he bought from Jerry Morici, who he acquired from Joe Mazza. This car was sold thru Mark Leonard at Grand Prix Classics.

David Irwin
Evergreen, CO.

[David Irwin]

I also presently have a BT10 that has no numbers. This car was believed to be a BT16 when owned by Rafael Costa. I purchased car and realized it as a BT10. The car was purchased out of the Franklin Institute (Philadelphia Transportation museum) by Ian Carpenter who sold it to Costa. and it included a SCCA log book back to 1972 driven by F. Nelson Petrey. Raced at Lime Rock, Bryar, Watkins Glen. Car was red with NEPE written on the side, ran FC w/ Cosworth SCA. Petrey purchased from Harry C. Kahn in 1972.

So:
Kahn to Petrey to Franklin Inst. to Carpenter to Costa to Irwin.

Any help in identifying this car would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

David Irwin
Evergreen, CO.

[Chris Townsend]

David

Two BT10s appear in FC in 1968, one for Curt Erwin and the other for Neil Hansen. I'll try and find out home towns for them. I suspect that one of these is the ex Oliver chassis 14, which doesn't appear in UK after 1967 - but then by 1967 most BT10s have vanished from European formula races.

Chris

[mshillingburg]

I have purchased a Brabham BT10 from David Irwin. With reference to
David's previous posts, any help with the history of the car would be greatly
appreciated. Interestingly, the gearbox is a Hewland mk7 ... and the
serial number stamped is Mk 7-1... First one? Any Hewland wizards out
there have any history on the Hewland mk7 ?

[Bryan Miller]

No history as such , however a MK. 7 is a 6 speed for the 1000cc F2 cars of 1964/5/6/ with the Cosworth SCA and a few cars with 1.0 litre BRM and in 1965/6 the Honda engines for the works Brabham team , if it says MK7-1 it will be the first one produced after prototype/s .
Is it actually still in 6 speed form or has it been converted back to 5 speed ?

[mshillingburg]

Yes, the mk 7 is still in 6 speed configuration and has a cam and pawl
limited slip diff. I am considering setting up as 5 speed for current
monoposto.

[Chris Townsend]

Originally Posted by mshillingburg

I have purchased a Brabham BT10 from David Irwin. With reference to
David's previous posts, any help with the history of the car would be greatly
appreciated. Interestingly, the gearbox is a Hewland mk7 ... and the
serial number stamped is Mk 7-1... First one? Any Hewland wizards out
there have any history on the Hewland mk7 ?

Mike, check your private mail on this forum

Chris

[Chris Townsend]

Originally Posted by mshillingburg

I have purchased a Brabham BT10 from David Irwin. With reference to
David's previous posts, any help with the history of the car would be greatly
appreciated. Interestingly, the gearbox is a Hewland mk7 ... and the
serial number stamped is Mk 7-1... First one? Any Hewland wizards out
there have any history on the Hewland mk7 ?

Mike, check your private mail on this forum

Chris

[Denis O'Sullivan]

I just came across the ten tenths forum
I owned the Brabham mentioned when I raced it for Baldyne Engineering
and sold it on to Geoff Oliver -
I never raced for Dave Walker
It gained the St Johns Ambulance trophy presented by the Dave Clark Band
with the outright single seater lap record at Brands Hatch.
If you want futher info I could check my records for any specific questions
regards
Denis O'Sullivan Ireland

[Chris Townsend]

Originally Posted by Denis O'Sullivan

I just came across the ten tenths forum
I owned the Brabham mentioned when I raced it for Baldyne Engineering
and sold it on to Geoff Oliver -
I never raced for Dave Walker
It gained the St Johns Ambulance trophy presented by the Dave Clark Band
with the outright single seater lap record at Brands Hatch.
If you want futher info I could check my records for any specific questions
regards
Denis O'Sullivan Ireland

Denis, welcome and good to have another veteran of 60s F3 on the forum. I'm sure that I won't be alone in having questions about your cars and about specific races.

I think that the Walker car might have been a Team Promecon entry

My first question would be about a BT16. Did you get an SCA engined BT16 in 1965?
[chassis F2.7.65 I think] Did it sell to Sweden at the end of the year [Lars Lindberg or Jean Johansson]

Best regards
Chris

[alleggerita]

During my research on Alfa Romeo race cars, i have found and bought a collection of old race documents from he 60´s (entry sheets/technical inspection sheets) from Italy, these also included documents regarding the following cars:

F2-6-64
F2-12-64

I would like to sell these documents to the owners of the cars, so if you are an owner of any of these cars, please send me a private mail.

Kind regards

Patrick Dasse
Hamburg, Germany

[speedy cooper]

Dear Patrick, Just read your post about F2-12-64. I am currently rebuilding this car and would be interested to hear what information you have on the car. my email is paul@shenstonehouse.co.uk

[allenbrown]

Originally Posted by speedy cooper

Dear Patrick, Just read your post about F2-12-64. I am currently rebuilding this car and would be interested to hear what information you have on the car. my email is paul@shenstonehouse.co.uk

Patrick sold all the material earlier this year but I know where it went. Email me at allen@oldracingcars.com and I'll try to help.

[Alex E]

Not sure if this is the best place for this but seems like the best option....
I have recently been discussing the history of the car purchased from Brabham by BMW with a friend who looked after the archive at BMW for many years. In BMW`s photo archive the car is always described as one of the three BT-7`s but I noticed on Allens oldracingcars website that he mentions that the suspension does not look like a BT-7.
BMW bought the car for some world record attempts fitted with a two litre four cylinder Apfelbeck engine, interestingly the man that did the work on the car always described it as an F2 car on internal documents and in his book. Years ago my friend wrote to Sir Jack asking him about this F1 car, his reply just said `this was never an F1 car` but no indication as to what it was.
The car arrived at BMW in December 1965 apparently in very used condition. There has never been any mention of a chassis number as BMW put their own number on it. The obvious thing would be to try and find the original chassis number which I am working on but exactly where would this be located ?
We are thinking now that this is actually a BT10 F2 car...and it seems that not all of these are accounted for...any help appreciated...Alex.