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Old 6 Aug 2024, 06:25 (Ref:4221929)   #51
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To be honest it looks just like a regular hatchback.


From the images in the article, it looks like it has the overall dimensions (in terms of height/width/length ratios) of a hatchback, not an SUV.
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The floor seems raised in comparison with the road car.
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Old 6 Aug 2024, 14:47 (Ref:4221976)   #53
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yeah, they're "based on a real story"


The Tracker (Road Car) was always a weird design to me beacuse it had a lot of nice design details but was ruined by its proportions, too tall, short and narrow, it always looked like a resized full size suv.
The new one is better in that regard but still has the proportions of a raised compact car.
The Stock Car changes a lot of those proportions, i like it more than the road car.
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Old 9 Aug 2024, 15:09 (Ref:4222278)   #54
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The racing version looks pretty badass.
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Old 18 Sep 2024, 19:32 (Ref:4227402)   #55
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Standings after round 8 Velopark:
  1. Felipe Baptista (Toyota), 675
  2. Eduardo Barrichello (Toyota), 606
  3. Júlio Campos (Chevrolet), 600
  4. Felipe Massa (Chevrolet), 581
  5. Ricardo Zonta (Toyota), 563
  6. Bruno Baptista (Toyota), 559
  7. Gabriel Casagrande (Chevrolet), 442
  8. Rafael Suzuki (Chevrolet), 517
  9. Daniel Serra (Chevrolet), 497
  10. Enzo Elias (Chevrolet), 468
  11. Rubens Barrichello (Toyota), 467
  12. Thiago Camilo (Toyota), 453
Round 9 is on October 6 at Buenos Aires.

Round 10 is on October 26 at El Pinar. Tickets are for sale.
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Buenos Aires race 1:
  1. Daniel Serra (Chevrolet)
  2. Ricardo Zonta (Toyota)
  3. Felipe Massa (Chevrolet)
Buenos Aires race 2:
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  2. Thiago Camilo (Toyota)
  3. Felipe Massa (Chevrolet)
Standings after round 9 Buenos Aires:
  1. Felipe Massa (Chevrolet), 696
  2. Felipe Baptista (Toyota), 684
  3. Bruno Baptista (Toyota), 661
  4. Gabriel Casagrande (Chevrolet), 656
  5. Ricardo Zonta (Toyota), 653
  6. Júlio Campos (Chevrolet), 637
  7. Eduardo Barrichello (Toyota), 621
  8. Daniel Serra (Chevrolet), 560
  9. Rafael Suzuki (Chevrolet), 543
  10. Enzo Elias (Chevrolet), 539
  11. Rubens Barrichello (Toyota), 529
  12. Thiago Camilo (Toyota), 527
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The Stock Car races this Saturday at El Pinar. Race 1 is scheduled at 09:00 am! They are completely insane.
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El Pinar qualifying:
  1. Felipe Fraga (Chevrolet), 1'22.188
  2. Felipe Massa (Chevrolet), + 0.302
  3. Gabriel Casagrande (Chevrolet), + 0.348
  4. Dudu Barrichello (Toyota), + 0.776
  5. Gaetano di Mauro (Chevrolet), + 0.870
  6. Felipe Baptista (Toyota), + 1.464
  7. Rafael Suzuki (Chevrolet), + 2.446
  8. Ricardo Zonta (Toyota), + 2.617
  9. Daniel Serra (Chevrolet), + 3.645
  10. Rubens Barrichello (Toyota), + 3.653
  11. Enzo Elias (Toyota), + 3.665
  12. Lucas Foresti (Chevrolet), + 3.677
  13. Arthur Leist (Toyota), + 3.713
  14. Júlio Campos (Chevrolet), + 3.771
  15. Thiago Camilo (Toyota), + 3.868
  16. Bruno Baptista (Toyota), + 3.908
  17. César Ramos (Toyota), + 3.932
  18. Vitor Baptista (Toyota), + 3.932
  19. Cacá Bueno (Chevrolet), + 4.101
  20. Marcos Gomes (Chevrolet), + 4.218
  21. Nelsinho Piquet (Chevrolet), + 6.359
  22. Allam Khodair (Chevrolet), + 6.773
  23. Átila Abreu (Chevrolet), + 7.192
  24. Gianluca Petecof (Toyota), + 7.448
  25. Ricardo Mauricio (Chevrolet), + 7.453
  26. Lucas Kohl (Chevrolet), + 7.817
  27. Zezinho Muggiati (Chevrolet), no time
There was a rain delay, and the top drivers in Q3 gambled to put slicks.

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We arrived a bit too late, and missed almost every lap of the morning race...

The Stock Cars are powerful, light and reasonably loud, so they give a much better show than TCR. Also they don't spread out, probably thanks to carefully desinged rear wing.

However they struggled to overtake because the track is a bit too narrow and the hairpin is too tight. Nevertheless, my father thought they were absolutely awesome.

There was a one-hour pitlane access for fans with paddock tickets. Cars were unfortunately parked inside the garages and we couldn't stand next to them. But several drivers gave signed hats and selfies, including Barrichello and Massa. Lines grew quickly, so I got a Texaco hat signed by Felipe Baptista instead. I wanted to buy a T-shirt or a mug, but there was no store. In contrast, TCR had absolutely no access to drivers either year, which was awful.

The event was confirmed very late, so the AUVO had no races, as two classes had raced last week, and next week all classes go to Rivera. This can be fixed for next year.

So in the gap between races there was a drifting show (same as TCR) and a freestyle motocross show (I saw single backflips on the first session and missed the second session).

Ticket sales were believed to be low, but in the end I saw a pretty good crowd, probably thanks to perfect weather. I'd rather have them again next year over TCRs, even as they switch to turbo-4s. According to authorities, Stock Cars will be back only if they also visit Argentina.
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Glad to hear you had a good time. I’m surprised that (presuming it’s the world tour) the TCR had poor fan access, as I believe that was always part of WTCC’s promotion.

Looking towards the new cars for 2025, do we know if the plans for a fourth manufacturer are still going ahead? I know there was some talk of a Chinese manufacturer entering, but haven’t seen anything since then.
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I didn't remember that Mitsubishi was returning...

Now sure what's the matter with fan access at the TCR World Tour race. The paddock access was identical (only half of the pitlane was visible), except that the Stock Car had a 60-minute pitlane walk. Here's one of my pictures of Rubinho:



Also I think that some drivers blended with the crowds in civilian clothes. Instead I never saw Girolami or Fontana except for a single-lap drivers parade.
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Mitsubishi will return.

Which 4th manufacturer?
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A fourth manufacturer is expected for 2026.

Hopefully tonight I will continue uploading photos to Wikipedia.
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A fourth manufacturer is expected for 2026.

Hopefully tonight I will continue uploading photos to Wikipedia.

Who is it? Peugeot?
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No word yet. I'm smelling that it's Chinese.
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