TCR - General topic - Page 27

NaBUru38 · 31 May 2024, 14:29 (Ref:4211121)

I think there's two aspects. BMW doesn't want to compete with mainstream brands like Hyundai and Honda. And BMW doesn't want to compete with FWD cars.

NaBUru38 · 31 May 2024, 14:31 (Ref:4211123)

As for Mini, I think that the Hatch and Aceman are too short for TCR regulations, and the Countryman is too tall.

V8 Fireworks · 9 Jun 2024, 01:24 (Ref:4212465)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

I think there's two aspects. BMW doesn't want to compete with mainstream brands like Hyundai and Honda. And BMW doesn't want to compete with FWD cars.

It's weird though, are BMW 128ti drivers meant to have pride in their vehicle being an "Ultimate Driving Machine"TM or not? But BMW's choice.

**FIRE** · 11 Jun 2024, 13:13 (Ref:4213006)

They want to keep it "secret" the cars are FWD.

Evantra · 23 Jul 2024, 10:53 (Ref:4220337)

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2024...lite-category/

Sub-TCR TC Lite category announced, incorporating existing rally4/5 regulations.

They tried this half a dozen years ago and it went nowhere, hopefully this proves more of a success.

antnee · 23 Jul 2024, 13:24 (Ref:4220354)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2024...lite-category/

Sub-TCR TC Lite category announced, incorporating existing rally4/5 regulations.

They tried this half a dozen years ago and it went nowhere, hopefully this proves more of a success.

It will help the cost of cars within the rallying groups. However, I can't see many people wanting to take a used rally car onto a circuit.
However, it has been a success within rallying and allows early OEM support to juniors - it would be great to see this happening in touring cars too.

NaBUru38 · 23 Jul 2024, 15:07 (Ref:4220369)

Rally4 and Rally5 cars are way too expensive for the performance they have. Rally should copy TCR, not viceversa.

TuteZaek · 23 Jul 2024, 15:20 (Ref:4220371)

Existing series like Uruguay's superturismo (i love those little beasts) and Argentina's TN C2 that are infinitelly more flexible (basically everyone can make a car) why tie a series to the whims of manufacturers?

NaBUru38 · 23 Jul 2024, 15:45 (Ref:4220372)

TCR South America - standings after round 4 Interlagos:

BRA Raphael Reis (Cupra), 179
ARG Juan Ángel Rosso (Toyota), 178
BRA Pedro Cardoso (Peugeot), 163
BRA Rafael Suzuki (Lynk / Peugeot), 138
ARG Leonel Pernia (Peugeot), 123
ARG Fabián Yannantuoni (Toyota), 117
URU Juan Manuel Casella (Honda), 110
BRA Galid Osman (Cupra), 104
BRA Rodrigo Baptista (Honda), 98
ARG Matias Rossi (Toyota), 95

Round 5 is on August 3-4 at El Pinar.

NaBUru38 · 16 Aug 2024, 13:55 (Ref:4222885)

TCR South America - standings after round 5 El Pinar:

BRA Pedro Cardoso (Peugeot), 248
ARG Juan Ángel Rosso (Toyota), 248
BRA Raphael Reis (Cupra), 215
BRA Rafael Suzuki (Lynk / Peugeot), 181
URU Juan Manuel Casella (Honda), 161
ARG Matias Rossi (Toyota), 137
BRA Rodrigo Baptista (Honda), 127
ARG Leonel Pernia (Peugeot), 123
BRA Galid Osman (Cupra), 121
ARG Fabián Yannantuoni (Toyota), 117

Round 6 is on August 24-25 at Mercedes (Uruguay), which I will miss again.

Round 7 is on September 14-15 at El Villicum.

Evantra · 30 Aug 2024, 11:10 (Ref:4224409)

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2024...-tcr-on-track/

New Peugeot has appeared!

S griffin · 30 Aug 2024, 13:06 (Ref:4224429)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evantra

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2024...-tcr-on-track/

New Peugeot has appeared!

Just looks like a standard TCR car to me. Not enough ‘Pug’ in it

NaBUru38 · 30 Aug 2024, 14:10 (Ref:4224442)

I looked at the photos and thought it look weird. Then I realised that this car is not for sale here in Uruguay, as the brand is focused on the double-ohs.

Speed-King · 31 Aug 2024, 17:28 (Ref:4224588)

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2024/08/31/mike-halder-claims-ring-djursland-pole-as-field-shrinks-to-eight-cars/

Ouch, only 8 cars for TCR Denmark this weekend.

Kind of wondering what's next for them. Can they go on with TCR? Or would it be a good idea to add the Rally4/5-based TCL cars in a second class? Or should they maybe even go back to the previous Trans-Am2 cars?

**FIRE** · 1 Sep 2024, 09:51 (Ref:4224689)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2024/08/31/mike-halder-claims-ring-djursland-pole-as-field-shrinks-to-eight-cars/

Ouch, only 8 cars for TCR Denmark this weekend.

Kind of wondering what's next for them. Can they go on with TCR? Or would it be a good idea to add the Rally4/5-based TCL cars in a second class? Or should they maybe even go back to the previous Trans-Am2 cars?

Malte Ebdrup also out after a crash in warm up.

I have to admit I didn't follow this or any other TCR series this year.
Last year the series had still good grid size.

Is there a series that uses Rally4/5-based TCL cars?

**FIRE** · 1 Sep 2024, 09:53 (Ref:4224690)

Quote:

Originally Posted by S griffin

Just looks like a standard TCR car to me. Not enough ‘Pug’ in it

Based on these photos it's too early to say.
The current Pug TCR looks like a Pug.

Speed-King · 1 Sep 2024, 11:43 (Ref:4224695)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Malte Ebdrup also out after a crash in warm up.

I have to admit I didn't follow this or any other TCR series this year.
Last year the series had still good grid size.

Is there a series that uses Rally4/5-based TCL cars?

TCL has only been announced as a circuit racing ruleset this summer. So far, I don't think any series have been confirmed for it. Might be a dud for all we know, but with lots of cars already in existence, I think there's a better chance for it than for similar previous initiatives.

S griffin · 2 Sep 2024, 07:56 (Ref:4225201)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

Based on these photos it's too early to say.
The current Pug TCR looks like a Pug.

Good point. I just hope it's a worthy successor to the current one

**FIRE** · 2 Sep 2024, 14:08 (Ref:4225247)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed-King

TCL has only been announced as a circuit racing ruleset this summer. So far, I don't think any series have been confirmed for it. Might be a dud for all we know, but with lots of cars already in existence, I think there's a better chance for it than for similar previous initiatives.

Except for some local (support) series I don't see this having big success, let alone to replace TCR as premier class. Touring car racing is in a difficult situation. I mean even in South-America they move to SUVs.

Speed-King · 2 Sep 2024, 14:47 (Ref:4225253)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

Except for some local (support) series I don't see this having big success, let alone to replace TCR as premier class. Touring car racing is in a difficult situation. I mean even in South-America they move to SUVs.

Yeah, the idea is not to replace TCR, but to provide a lower rung on the pyramid at a reasonable price - which might just work out with the availability of especially the R4 cars and a decent market for used cars.

NaBUru38 · 18 Sep 2024, 19:25 (Ref:4227401)

TCR South America - El Villicum race 1

Matias Rossi (Toyota)
Juan Manuel Casella (Honda)
Matias Cravero (Honda)

TCR South America - El Villicum race 2

Matias Rossi (Toyota)
Juan Manuel Casella (Honda)
Galid Osman (Cupra)

There were just 16 cars, with Fontana missing.

TCR South America - standings after round 7 El Villicum:

BRA Pedro Cardoso (Peugeot), 330
BRA Raphael Reis (Cupra), 322
URU Juan Manuel Casella (Honda), 290
ARG Juan Ángel Rosso (Toyota), 285
ARG Matias Rossi (Toyota), 256
BRA Rafael Suzuki (Lynk / Peugeot), 240
ARG Leonel Pernia (Peugeot), 226
BRA Galid Osman (Cupra), 209
BRA Rodrigo Baptista (Honda), 157
ARG Fabián Yannantuoni (Toyota), 156

Round 8 is on October 4-5 at Buenos Aires.

v8supes · 19 Sep 2024, 16:40 (Ref:4227460)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evantra

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2024...-tcr-on-track/

New Peugeot has appeared!

Hahahaha look at that rear wing.

NaBUru38 · 7 Oct 2024, 14:02 (Ref:4229825)

TCR South America - Buenos Aires race 1

BRA Galid Osman (Cupra)
ARG Matias Cravero (Honda)
ARG Juan Ángel Rosso (Toyota)

TCR South America - Buenos Aires race 2

URU Juan Manuel Casella (Honda)
ARG Matias Cravero (Honda)
ARG Leonel Pernia (Peugeot)

TCR South America - standings after round 8 Buenos Aires:

BRA Pedro Cardoso (Peugeot), 382
URU Juan Manuel Casella (Honda), 359
BRA Raphael Reis (Cupra), 342
ARG Juan Ángel Rosso (Toyota), 337
ARG Matias Rossi (Toyota), 287
ARG Leonel Pernia (Peugeot), 278
BRA Rafael Suzuki (Lynk / Peugeot), 268
BRA Galid Osman (Cupra), 255
BRA Rodrigo Baptista (Honda), 157
ARG Fabián Yannantuoni (Toyota), 156

Round 9 is on November 9-10 at Termas de Rio Hondo.

Rubio · 14 Oct 2024, 09:05 (Ref:4230944)

New Peugeot to debut this weekend in TCR Australia:
https://tcraustralia.com/2024/10/14/...torsport-park/

Evantra · 16 Oct 2024, 08:10 (Ref:4231161)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubio

New Peugeot to debut this weekend in TCR Australia:
https://tcraustralia.com/2024/10/14/...torsport-park/

Not the most flattering of machines so far…

https://www.touringcars.net/2024/10/...ugeot-308-cars

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