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I do think there are some things to take into account.
Lewis and Sulayem have history and Lewis clearly has no time for the man, I also feel Lewis is doing a little virtue signalling to serve this cause. Nothing really wrong with that per se as he has an axe to grind. Also Sulayem has lived his entire life a billionaire, he knows nothing of the real outside world so was probably making a flippant remark with less knowledge than some, it is certainly true this music contains a huge amount of swearing and attitude towards a lot of people that is awful, too much for most peoples ears and he is right to make the point that drivers should not be doing it where possible. For Lewis to take that as a smite against black people for me a little pathetic sorry. |
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Max pushes back against the FIA for penalising him by saying very little in the FIA press conference and then staged his own press conference outside later.
Lewis & Lando take Max's side in the FIA press conference. Really feels like MBS in particular, & the FIA in general is turning a molehill into a mountain here and urinating into the wind - just all seems utterly pointless. Maybe, being a "man in white dress" MBS really HAS had little exposure to the levels of swearing in the western world these days - TV, movies etc. all feature more than used to be the case but then general life does too (although, as an Australian, I've been told before that we tend to swear a lot compared to some other countries). Regardless though, it seems a strange hill to want to die on and I don't think that handing out penalties is the smart way to go at all - makes it all seem so pettifogging and "jobsworth". |
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Normally I'd agree with the drivers here. Mic up a football player during a match and you won't get anything better.
However, that isn't what happened here. Max swore during a press conference and was asked not to. It wasn't heat of the moment. It wasn't a high pressure incident. He just called his car sh*t. He then tried to parrot the excellent Vettel speech about drivers being held to too high a standard (in terms of language), which was completely out of context. Press conferences are designed purely to be on TV/Socials and broadcast able. By doing what he did, he made it unboradcastable. This isn't like a race where they can just choose too not play that bit of radio and nobody would notice. He was asked politely not to swear and then had an incoherent rant about it. Swearing in the car: no problem. This is what happens under pressure Swearing in a press conference: you're just being childish. You can go a few minutes without swearing. Similar to what Tourer said, I'm Scottish. We swear a lot. It's what we do. But I manage not to swear in work meetings, because I'm a grown up. |
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There is of course a child friendly broadcast if anyone is genuinely that worried about people swearing on television.
Censoring drivers, whether it’s over language choice or their beliefs on social issues, is not the way to deal with things imo. |
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I'm not really thinking about censoring drivers or worrying about children hearing something they shouldn't, I'm thinking about what it says about the speaker. For my part, it makes him look a bit of a twonk.
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Put it on a delay, bleep it out, and make it usable then. They have the technology!
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If that is true, then how have they been broadcasting races in those places all these past years then?
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Petty penalties may hasten Max's departure from F1.
Must admit that when they announced the penalty against Carlos, I did wonder if the FIA had decreed some kind of crack down, when viewed in concert with Max's penalty for swearing in a press conference. Yes, I know that other drivers have been pinged previously for crossing a "live" track but I also think that not enough allowance for circumstances is made by stewards at times. For sure, crossing a live track CAN be extremely dangerous, and I must admit that I cringe at times when they do it (shades of Tom Pryce) but crossing a track under red flag conditions is VERY different, AND the section of track he was on was after the pit lane entry, so no cars would come through there AND he was able to wait at the pit entry for a gap in the slow moving car train. Just feels like the FIA (or maybe it's just the prez) is over-playing its hand here. |
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Considering how much of a golden egg Drive to Survive has been for F1 and the FIA, which repeatedly uses F and C bombs, to make Max do community service for saying one of the words you hear about 47 times an episode is nothing short of hilarious.
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