Driver One-hit wonders - Page 21

morninggents · 22 Jul 2024, 13:46 (Ref:4220264)

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Originally Posted by Skam85

Why would there be an asterisk?

Shall we put an asterisk on Mika Hakkinen's first win as well?

Totally different circumstances. And Mika got out of that club.

There again, Piastri may be gifted another win.

chillibowl · 22 Jul 2024, 15:12 (Ref:4220267)

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Originally Posted by Skam85

Why would there be an asterisk?

Shall we put an asterisk on Mika Hakkinen's first win as well?

in fairness, just by bringing up that situation (coincidently also in a McLaren and it giving them their first 1-2 in ages) is in and of itself an acknowledgement that Mika's first win does have some sort of defacto asterisk attached to it.

which in a way means that OP can go on to win multiple titles and still his first win will always have a similar sort of asterisks attached to it.

not a bad thing mind you, its a team sport and all that jazz, just saying that fans with long memories naturally attach asterisks to all sorts of things!

anyways, hope his 2nd win comes soon because after that is when we will see the real fireworks erupt between this young and very talented pairing.

FAS33 · 23 Jul 2024, 06:29 (Ref:4220324)

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Originally Posted by morninggents

Totally different circumstances. And Mika got out of that club.

There again, Piastri may be gifted another win.

Just like Lando was gifted the Miami Grand Prix.

morninggents · 23 Jul 2024, 10:07 (Ref:4220334)

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Originally Posted by FAS33

Just like Lando was gifted the Miami Grand Prix.

By whom? Max? I son't think so. By Piastri who finished well down the order 50 seconds back?

Greem · 23 Jul 2024, 11:24 (Ref:4220339)

It's sort of reassuring to see that a leopard can't change their spots.

FAS33 · 23 Jul 2024, 11:26 (Ref:4220340)

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Originally Posted by morninggents

By whom? Max? I son't think so. By Piastri who finished well down the order 50 seconds back?

By the safety car. Oscar has more wins than lando in F1 despite years less experience.

Skam85 · 23 Jul 2024, 22:45 (Ref:4220390)

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Originally Posted by morninggents

Totally different circumstances. And Mika got out of that club.

There again, Piastri may be gifted another win.

How very British of you

morninggents · 23 Jul 2024, 23:04 (Ref:4220397)

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Originally Posted by Skam85

How very British of you

??

FAS33 · 24 Jul 2024, 00:53 (Ref:4220402)

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Originally Posted by Skam85

How very British of you

Tourer · 15 Sep 2024, 18:13 (Ref:4227059)

Both McLaren drivers joint the "one hit wonders" club this year and both get themselves out of the club this year - surely that must be a first for a team to have both drivers do that in one season? Well, other than 1950 with Fangio and Farini of course, but to be expected in the first year of F1.

Oh and big congratulations to both Lando and Oscar - both having a stellar (see what I did there?) year so far.

**Peter Mallett** · 15 Sep 2024, 18:25 (Ref:4227061)

Blimey, I never knew Farini was a double winner.

Trev Campbell · 16 Sep 2024, 07:03 (Ref:4227140)

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Originally Posted by Tourer

Both McLaren drivers joint the "one hit wonders" club this year and both get themselves out of the club this year - surely that must be a first for a team to have both drivers do that in one season? Well, other than 1950 with Fangio and Farini of course, but to be expected in the first year of F1.

Oh and big congratulations to both Lando and Oscar - both having a stellar (see what I did there?) year so far.

Did Ralf and Montoya do it in the early 2000's in the Williams ??? Thats the only other possibility I can think of off the top of my head.

Also for the stats guys, With Russell, Norris and Piastri all getting out of the one hit wonder club this year. Is that a record ???

crmalcolm · 16 Sep 2024, 07:28 (Ref:4227143)

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Originally Posted by Trev Campbell

Did Ralf and Montoya do it in the early 2000's in the Williams ??? Thats the only other possibility I can think of off the top of my head.

Ralf got on and off the list in 2001.
Montoya got on the list, but didn't move off it until 2003 I think.

crmalcolm · 16 Sep 2024, 09:41 (Ref:4227155)

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Originally Posted by Trev Campbell

Also for the stats guys, With Russell, Norris and Piastri all getting out of the one hit wonder club this year. Is that a record ???

Looking at Championship Race Wins only:

1974 - 4 - Niki Lauda, Carlos Reutemann, Jody Scheckter, Clay Regazzoni
1979 - 4 - Alan Jones, Gilles Villeneuve, Jacques Laffite, Patrick Depailler
1983 - 4 - Riccardo Patrese, Michele Alboreto, Keke Rosberg, Patrick Tambay

1954 - 3 - Mike Hawthorn, Bill Vukovich, José Froilán González
1980 - 3 - Nelson Piquet, René Arnoux, Jean-Pierre Jabouille
1985 - 3 - Ayrton Senna, Nigel Mansell, Elio de Angelis
2009 - 3 - Sebastian Vettel, Jenson Button, Mark Webber

Trev Campbell · 19 Sep 2024, 03:40 (Ref:4227427)

Thanks for the stats crmalcolm. It's happened more often than I imagined !!!

Henk Vasmel · 22 Sep 2024, 18:10 (Ref:4227906)

The original question was in and out of the One hit wonders in one season, and then for both drivers of a team.
Originally rather difficult, because there were teams with more than 2 drivers, so that was more or less impossible for the whole team.
And then there are much more fluid line-ups initially.

Anyway, there are quite a bit more drivers who won their first race in a certain season and followed that up with another win that season.
We could argue about 1950, when 2 Alfa drivers did that, but other than that, the McLaren team is the first that did it with all their drivers.

1950: Farina and Fangio, 2 of the Alfa drivers, so doubtful
1951: Ascari. Only 1 of the team
1954: Hawthorn, Vukovic, Gonzalez: None of them. First victory all in a different season
1956: Collins. Only 1 of the team
1959: Brabham. Only 1 of the team
1961: Von Trips. Only 1 of the team
1962: Clark and G.Hill, Only 1 per team
1967: Hulme. Only 1 of the team
1973: Peterson. Only 1 of the team
1973: Revson. Only 1 of the team
1974: Lauda, Only 1 of the team
1974: Reutemann, Only 1 of the team
1974: Scheckter, Only 1 of the team
[1974 Clay Regazzoni: Not Regazzoni. First victory in a different season]
[1979 Alan Jones, Gilles Villeneuve, Jacques Laffite, Patrick Depailler: None of them. First victory all in a different season]
1980: Arnoux. Only 1 of the team
1980: Piquet. Only 1 of the team
1980: Pironi. Only 1 of the team
[1980 Jean-Pierre Jabouille. Not Jabouille. First Victory in a different season]
1981: Prost. Only 1 of the team
[1983 Riccardo Patrese, Michele Alboreto, Keke Rosberg, Patrick Tambay: Not Alboreto, Patrese, Rosberg. First victory in a different season]
1985: Mansell. Only 1 of the team
1985: Senna. Only 1 of the team
[1985 Elio de Angelis: Not De Angelis. First Victory in a different season]
1989: Boutsen. Only 1 of the team
1993: D. Hill. Only 1 of the team
1995: Herbert. Only 1 of the team
1996: J.Villeneuve. Only 1 of the team
1999: Irvine. Only 1 of the team
2001: R.Schumacher. Only 1 of the team
2006: Massa. Only 1 of the team
2007: Hamilton. Only 1 of the team
2009: Webber. Only 1 of the team
2009 Sebastian Vettel, Jenson Button, Mark Webber: Not Vettel, Button. First victory in a different season
2014: Ricciardo. Only 1 of the team
2017: Bottas. Only 1 of the team
2019: Leclerc. Only 1 of the team
2024: Norris and Piastri, All of the McLaren drivers, so a first.

Tourer · 22 Sep 2024, 22:38 (Ref:4228048)

Thank you Henk, that is brilliant - really appreciate the time you put into it.

Yeah, felt like a "first" for McLaren to me & I really don't count 1950 as it was the first year of F1 so previous wins didn't count towards the "one hit wonder" scoreboard.

Makes it a pretty special year we're experiencing!

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