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Old 20 Sep 2024, 07:14 (Ref:4227496)   #6826
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Armstrong fills out the MSR stable in the 66

https://racer.com/2024/09/19/armstro...hank-for-2025/

Foyt moves all operations to Indy, not everyone moving so team changes coming but probably easier to bring in new talent in Indy

https://racer.com/2024/09/19/foyt-co...-indianapolis/

I hoped for Rossi at Meyer Shank. Sad. So Rossi to RLL now?
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Old 20 Sep 2024, 14:53 (Ref:4227542)   #6827
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Armstrong fills out the MSR stable in the 66

https://racer.com/2024/09/19/armstro...hank-for-2025/

Foyt moves all operations to Indy, not everyone moving so team changes coming but probably easier to bring in new talent in Indy

https://racer.com/2024/09/19/foyt-co...-indianapolis/
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I hoped for Rossi at Meyer Shank. Sad. So Rossi to RLL now?
I think that leaves Rossi and Lundqvist as the two best drivers with nothing confirmed for next season. Well, also Robb of course.

Does RLL have anybody but Graham confirmed yet?
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Old 20 Sep 2024, 17:41 (Ref:4227560)   #6828
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No one but the boss signed. Wouldn't be surprised to see Rossi and Vips in them
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Old 20 Sep 2024, 23:41 (Ref:4227593)   #6829
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ECR looking for new drivers, Veekay not retained by the team

https://racer.com/2024/09/20/veekay-...rpenter-racing
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Old 21 Sep 2024, 19:32 (Ref:4227680)   #6830
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But no word on Rasmussen. Expect him to stay.


Rossi in the second car?
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 06:06 (Ref:4227747)   #6831
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ECR looking for new drivers, Veekay not retained by the team

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Rinus should be a hot property but he isn't.

Lots of performance in him in the right team but does he have any backing to bring?
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 18:50 (Ref:4227922)   #6832
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Rinus should be a hot property but he isn't.

Lots of performance in him in the right team but does he have any backing to bring?
That seems like it may be the sticking point, the remaining seats need to bring some budget. Hopefully he gets a seat, and if not full season, Indy.
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Old 23 Sep 2024, 12:06 (Ref:4228116)   #6833
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That seems like it may be the sticking point, the remaining seats need to bring some budget. Hopefully he gets a seat, and if not full season, Indy.
Think for the first time there could actually be decent budgets pushing for an Indy only or 500/GP project and more than 34 cars


No surprise at all, Logan gets a test with MSR

https://racer.com/2024/09/23/sargean...h-meyer-shank/

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Old 23 Sep 2024, 15:02 (Ref:4228125)   #6834
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I didn't even know this was a thing!
I never watched it fully. It's not good at all, but not Driven-level bad either.
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Old 23 Sep 2024, 16:22 (Ref:4228138)   #6835
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IndyCar launches its charter program.

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Old 23 Sep 2024, 18:03 (Ref:4228152)   #6836
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IndyCar launches its charter program.

https://www.indycar.com/news/2024/09/09-23-charters
The article on racer goes in to some details of how the deal got done. Roger himself had to get on the phone with team owners.

https://racer.com/2024/09/23/indycar...m-owners-sign/

And we have 10 teams signed on for the 25 spots, plus the two Prema cars that aren't chartered.
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Not sure what the benefit of the charter is over the current system other than maybe selling the entry to another team and giving Penske some of that selling price. Couldn't a new team just wait out a failing team and then get the open charter for free later, or at least discounted. But I kinda skimmed it and didn't get too in depth beyond the Racer read

Interesting bit is the limit to 3 drivers in your car for the season and publicly calling it the Dale Coyne rule.
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The first version of such a system that I know of is when the V8 teams in Australia formed their own group in 1993 or so to represent team views and then went to what was originally a franchise model but which has morphed into a charter system these days.

Benefit of such a system to the teams is that they have more value intrinsically. Rather than having a legend selling up and having a workshop, transporter, couple of chassis and some spares (so not a great amount of value) the charter system adds value as it becomes the only way to get into a series. Due to that increased value, it also becomes more possible for team owners to sell equity or borrow against company value to allow investment.

It is of course why so many sports have gone down this path over time - it's generally a two-way street as well, with teams committing to attend races, so that the series owner can guarantee fields when "selling" events featuring their series to potential promoters.

Given that CART had team equity with some similar benefits, it is a bit surprising that it's taken this long to get back to having something along these lines (with the lessons of what worked and what didn't in CART applied of course).
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No, no we're not at all up for sale here

https://racer.com/2024/09/24/food-ma...penter-racing/

Splenda and Java House are his brands so some serious money behind them and they'll be on both cars. Likely one of the brands as main on a car. Driver lineup to be announced tomorrow
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Alexander Rossi gets the nod at ECR, with a multi year contract. It's also his birthday today.


https://www.indycar.com/news/2024/09...cr-2025-lineup
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Splenda and Java House are his brands so some serious money behind them and they'll be on both cars. Likely one of the brands as main on a car. Driver lineup to be announced tomorrow
This is a huge deal to bring more mainstream brands in to sponsorship roles in Indycar.

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Alexander Rossi gets the nod at ECR, with a multi year contract. It's also his birthday today.


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Great pairing of Rossi and Rasmussen to boot!
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And Ed taking a seat as a 3rd car for Indy only, gotta think he's got this year and maybe next in him
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Great for Carpenter, not so great for Rossi. Stepping down from McLaren doesn't sound so smart, even if the team favors Pato.
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Great for Carpenter, not so great for Rossi. Stepping down from McLaren doesn't sound so smart, even if the team favors Pato.

I don't think Rossi had much choice in the matter and going to ECR isn't necessarily a step down, after all that's where Josef Newgarden got his break.
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Nope, he was let go by them. Regardless of what the team says coming out and straight saying he's out at the end of the season was a we didn't care to keep you no matter the cost.

Gotta think he's jumped closer to the front of the pole challengers for the 500 in an ECR car
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Rossi has been a water carrier for the last 2 or 3 years.
On perfomance I don't see the upgrade over Veekay.
Commercially it might be a different matter
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