BTCC 2024 News & Rumours

[MarcusH26]

In the piece that went out on the series website over the summer it sounds like Unlimited have a second Cupra all ready to go for next season, could that be the unaccounted for 076?

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by coffinpilot

Is 076 still owned by the bailiffs?

At Croft I was told by one of the Toyota managers that the Cook car was partially built from reusable RML components from one of the Cupras, anybody know which of the three cars that would be, and what stuff could be sold to be reused (if it's true.)

I'd heard that 076 went to Excelr8 and was striped for part, then the remains handed back to the finance company. Possibly whoever told me that could have got Toyota and Hyundai mixed up. As far as I know the finance company still have it.

That said, the subrames and running gear had already been removed from most of the cars before the finance company repo'ed them so there will be plenty of spare bits floating around.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by redshoes

I'd heard that 076 went to Excelr8 and was striped for part, then the remains handed back to the finance company. Possibly whoever told me that could have got Toyota and Hyundai mixed up. As far as I know the finance company still have it.

That said, the subrames and running gear had already been removed from most of the cars before the finance company repo'ed them so there will be plenty of spare bits floating around.

Probably all worn out though!

[Pickles]

It was Excelr8 that had the missing car for parts before returning the shell to the finance company. According to Bob Sharpless all 6 cars are 'accounted for'. Un-Limited do have a second car for next year, I get the feeling with the way the team is being run that they will only run it if a driver has the budget in place, rather than the old HARD way.

[MarcusH26]

Originally Posted by Pickles

It was Excelr8 that had the missing car for parts before returning the shell to the finance company. According to Bob Sharpless all 6 cars are 'accounted for'. Un-Limited do have a second car for next year, I get the feeling with the way the team is being run that they will only run it if a driver has the budget in place, rather than the old HARD way.

Yeah the article all sounded very sensible, I expect they might have a fight to keep DeLeon but if they can keep Duckhams as a title sponsor that would be a bonus.

[MarcusH26]

https://btcc.net/dan-zelos-earns-second-btcc-shot-at-silverstone/

Zelos confirmed for Silverstone

[Greem]

That's excellent news.

[Matt K]

Fantastic news, really happy for Dan. Hope he could secure a full-time seat for next season although I guess it'll be another difficult task to find budget for Brands Hatch, let alone full season next year.

[Racing_Dad]

Great for Dan to get another run, hopefully he'll get 3 good results and find the monies for Brands.

[BTCC frog]

Does anyone know of anywhere I can see the running total for the BTCC championship after individual rounds in past seasons?

Specifically, I need to know how much ballast every car had after qualifying in each race in 2012-2021.

Any ideas?

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by BTCC frog

Does anyone know of anywhere I can see the running total for the BTCC championship after individual rounds in past seasons?

Specifically, I need to know how much ballast every car had after qualifying in each race in 2012-2021.

Any ideas?

Do you mean how much ballast was carried in Q and R1 - which I think are the same thing?

It might be a bit of work to link two sources together.

Part 1 - TSL timing. The championship standing (on which Q ballast was calculated) is given in pdf form after each event.

e.g. - The standing after the first meeting in 2012 can be found here - https://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=T...1303ptstrg.pdf

Part 2 - Wayback Machine. I can only see back as far as 2015, but you might be able to get the earlier seasons (unless anyone can confirm the amounts stayed the same for 2012-2015).
From this site, the ballast is confirmed as:
2015 - 1st:75kg, 2nd:66kg 3rd:57kg, 4th:48kg, 5th:39kg, 6th:33kg, 7th:27kg, 8th:21kg, 9th:15kg, 10th:9kg
You should be able to trawl through the scrapes to see when the amounts changed.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150915...d-regulations/

[crmalcolm]

n.b. - the weights changed for the 2019 season:
1st: 54kg, 2nd: 48kg 3rd: 42kg, 4th: 36kg, 5th: 30kg, 6th: 24kg, 7th: 18kg, 8th: 12kg, 9th: 6kg, 10th: 6kg

again in 2020:
1st: 60kg
2nd: 54kg
3rd: 48kg
4th: 42kg
5th: 36kg
6th: 30kg
7th: 24kg
8th: 18kg
9th: 12kg
10th: 6kg

For 2021:
1st: 75kgs
2nd: 66kgs
3rd: 57kgs
4th: 48kgs
5th: 39kgs
6th: 33kgs
7th: 27kgs
8th: 21kgs
9th: 15kgs
10th: 9kgs

[BTCC frog]

TSL timing is exactly what I needed, thank you very much.

I thought of a formula I could use to estimate how much difference the success ballast made to the lap-times, but I was struggling to find out how much ballast each car had in each qualifying session in order to test it, because I didn't know who was leading the championship going into each round but TSL timing has that information.