[BTCC] Brands Thread

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by SSmith

BTCC and TCR UK have clashed multiple times over the years and he always prioritises BTCC. He was at Silverstone for BTCC instead of TCR UK at Thruxton.

Yeah he was definitely at the BTCC! He only does Sundays though so maybe he was at TCR on Saturday, I can’t remember.

Personally I do like him and think he’s good, brings some enthusiasm, but completely agree on the constant squeals and gasps!

[SV8Predator]

Originally Posted by codename_47

no-one has explained to him this is a dangerous sport and the drivers are wearing helmets, safety belts, HANS etc....not sure this sport is for him tbh

And yet, Paul is an accomplished racing driver (and has been for many years), and (presumably) you're not?

[cxx666]

Originally Posted by codename_47

the way he squeals any time 2 cars look like they're close to coming together and flips his lid any time there's any accidents make me think no-one has explained to him this is a dangerous sport and the drivers are wearing helmets, safety belts, HANS etc....not sure this sport is for him tbh

I quite like his commentary style. Yes, he's quite excitable, but he knows his stuff, knows the people he's commenting on, and I think the contrasting styles of him and RJN compliment each other very well when they're paired up.

[ScottS]

Anyone know the tyre situation for this round? If I remember correctly, Silverstone was meant to be a free choice in tyre's from whatever the drivers have carried over. Seeing as only a couple of drivers got onto a slick for tiny portion of a race, and for everyone else, they were on wets all day.

Has the carried over/free choice tyre rule been knocked on the head or are they allowed to use carried over tyres into the Brands round? That could alter the complection of the championship if they are allowed free choice.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by ScottS

Anyone know the tyre situation for this round? If I remember correctly, Silverstone was meant to be a free choice in tyre's from whatever the drivers have carried over. Seeing as only a couple of drivers got onto a slick for tiny portion of a race, and for everyone else, they were on wets all day.

Has the carried over/free choice tyre rule been knocked on the head or are they allowed to use carried over tyres into the Brands round? That could alter the complection of the championship if they are allowed free choice.

Medium is the standard tyre for the meeting.
Option tyre is soft, that must be used for one race.
12 tyres can be carried into the event, plus the new allocation of 4 soft and 8 mediums.
Qualifying is free choice (as is FP).

[Evantra]

Saturday coverage starts at 1:45

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by Evantra

Saturday coverage starts at 1:45

The BTCC website states qualifying is being shown on YouTube from 15:35 for one hour. Where is the coverage at 13:45?

[ScottS]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Medium is the standard tyre for the meeting.
Option tyre is soft, that must be used for one race.
12 tyres can be carried into the event, plus the new allocation of 4 soft and 8 mediums.
Qualifying is free choice (as is FP).

Thanks crmalcolm.

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

The BTCC website states qualifying is being shown on YouTube from 15:35 for one hour. Where is the coverage at 13:45?

Assuming this is correct- https://x.com/itvmotorsport/status/1...T11pmdgnSSDQzA

[ScottS]

The YouTube feed is showing as starting at 13:45.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT24-L7Ce40

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

The BTCC website states qualifying is being shown on YouTube from 15:35 for one hour. Where is the coverage at 13:45?

The saturday broadcast also shows the support races as some championships might be decided on that day

they have done that before.

[Mike Harte]

Thanks for the above. Sorry if it seemed as though I was doubting what was posted, however it was only because I trusted the BTCC's own website.

I assumed that since TOCA had taken on a new media/comms person at the start of this year that important information about such things as the timings of broadcast on whatever medium available would be put up on their own website in a timely and accurate fashion.

I, obviously, was horribly wrong. There seems to be little oversight going on.

[pimmy]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

The saturday broadcast also shows the support races as some championships might be decided on that day

they have done that before.

Yes, the only round of the year where the support package gets any respect. I really don't blame Ginetta for leaving.

[TinTopGrumpy]

Isn't there a separate programme on ITV (confusingly called Motorsport UK from memory) that covers all the support races?

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by TinTopGrumpy

Isn't there a separate programme on ITV (confusingly called Motorsport UK from memory) that covers all the support races?

yes has been for many years
on itv4
only for all the support races

[pimmy]

Motorsport UK has never covered "all the support races". It's simply a delayed (to the point where the most recent episode has racing from Knockhill!) highlights package of the races shown on the live broadcast. No different from the BTCC highlights.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by pimmy

Motorsport UK has never covered "all the support races". It's simply a delayed (to the point where the most recent episode has racing from Knockhill!) highlights package of the races shown on the live broadcast. No different from the BTCC highlights.

whats your beef?

tell me what other race championships in the uk that get as much high audience tv coverage and big spectator numbers as the btcc support races do

i'll save you from replying;
none even come close

yet some people think thats not good enough
amazing

[sceptic]

Originally Posted by pimmy

Motorsport UK has never covered "all the support races". It's simply a delayed (to the point where the most recent episode has racing from Knockhill!) highlights package of the races shown on the live broadcast. No different from the BTCC highlights.

No, it frequently shows races that have not been on the live broadcast. Indeed this week's episode includes two races from Knockhill that weren't shown live.

[sceptic]

Originally Posted by pimmy

Yes, the only round of the year where the support package gets any respect. I really don't blame Ginetta for leaving.

Ginetta haven't had a single race on TV since they left the TOCA package. So they may have reduced their losses, but nobody is watching.

[pimmy]

Originally Posted by sceptic

No, it frequently shows races that have not been on the live broadcast. Indeed this week's episode includes two races from Knockhill that weren't shown live.

Sorry, I should clarify. I meant races from the Sunday broadcast, not necessarily live.

Originally Posted by sceptic

Ginetta haven't had a single race on TV since they left the TOCA package. So they may have reduced their losses, but nobody is watching.

Viewership might be less but at least it's actually possible to watch them.

Nobody will convince me that 2/3 of a season being shown is better than a whole season being shown, regardless of which medium it's on. It's not 2004 anymore.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by pimmy

Sorry, I should clarify. I meant races from the Sunday broadcast, not necessarily live.



Viewership might be less but at least it's actually possible to watch them.

Nobody will convince me that 2/3 of a season being shown is better than a whole season being shown, regardless of which medium it's on. It's not 2004 anymore.

you kidding right?

just one event live on itv plus the huge spectators at that event plus live streaming on itvx is much much more than a whole season of hardly anybody watching or viewing!

or maybe you think its just a coincidence that ginetta grids have fallen since leaving and the porsche grids have boomed

[SSmith]

Entry List

https://www.barc.net/wp-content/uplo...d-02-10-24.pdf

BTCC - 20
Dan Zelos is on the entry list so potentially has secured the necessary funding.

PCCGB - 22
Grid back down to normal levels. 11 Pro, 8 Pro-Am, 3 Am

British F4 - 20
Return of Pulling and Lloyd. Only Thomas Bearman continues from the Silverstone guest entries.

MINI JCW - 14 JCW and 5 JCW Sport
Zelos is still on the JCW entry list. Most season regulars in both classes are seeing out the season. Frankie Taylor, Harry Hickton and Anthony Sullivan join JCW, Lee Allen is in the Sport guest car.

Sprint Challenge - 15 RS and 10 CS
Regular RS grid. CS entry list features the returning Caitlin Wood (who has been entered a couple of times this year, but not raced since Snetterton so could be a similar story) and the debut of Jodie Sloss.

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

just one event live on itv plus the huge spectators at that event plus live streaming on itvx is much much more than a whole season of hardly anybody watching or viewing!

Be careful when comparing ITV viewing figures, the numbers fluctuate wildly during the broadcast. The peak number that BTCC quote is very different from the average for the entire (8hr) programme that BARB use. The number watching during support races will be significantly lower.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by redshoes

Be careful when comparing ITV viewing figures, the numbers fluctuate wildly during the broadcast. The peak number that BTCC quote is very different from the average for the entire (8hr) programme that BARB use. The number watching during support races will be significantly lower.

yes of course but that is still a massive amount more than whatever ginetta now get (which is next to nothing)

plus the big crowds
plus live streaming
plus etc etc

[tocatrucky]

Any word indicating if the Chevron Jr car is going to be doing demo laps during the lunchbreaks? I know they hoped to have it shakedown running esrlier his week but the poor weather may have delayed that.