New pickup trucks and utes

[joeb]

Sad times we live in, a truck that was replaced 6 years ago is finally stopping production. Maybe, probably. Farewell Classic!

https://www.thedrive.com/news/confir...is-its-hemi-v8

[broadrun96]

It was always an odd decision to not make a DT Tradesman, there was no entry model other than the DS Classic until this year

[JHamilton]

Originally Posted by joeb

Sad times we live in, a truck that was replaced 6 years ago is finally stopping production. Maybe, probably. Farewell Classic!

https://www.thedrive.com/news/confir...is-its-hemi-v8

It's been confirmed the last one (1500) will be produced next month. It's sad but it will go down as one of the legendary pickups and deservedly so. I think it's nearly 4 million sold. However! Spy shots of the 2025 Ram HD are floating around and the 4th gen lives on!

[JHamilton]

Dorky nerd fact, the taillight shape, size, and housing has been the same since 2009, mainly because the HDs have been the same, even on the 5th gens. But because of this, I can spot a ram from a mile away. I think this continuity helps.

[Adam43]

I like that. It is the official size!

At the risk of looking stupid, what are the HDs?

[Gerard C]

Sorry for my French but here we call this Heavy Duty.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

Sorry for my French but here we call this Heavy Duty.

Here - sometimes also referred to as Super Duty. Typically with a stronger frame and more powerful engine, which increases the load and towing capacity.

[broadrun96]

And ironically DOT calls it regular (weak) duty, mostly. You can up them to medium but generally that's 4500/450s that are medium duty. But they're mostly a slightly inflated copy of the 2500/3500 series

[Adam43]

Of course. Are there official weights for medium, heavy, …

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Of course. Are there official weights for medium, heavy, …

Yeah, there is and they can be militant about it

[JHamilton]

Originally Posted by Adam43

I like that. It is the official size!

At the risk of looking stupid, what are the HDs?

Originally Posted by Gerard C

Sorry for my French but here we call this Heavy Duty.

Yes, sorry heavy duty. To confuse things further, I call these either "three quarter ton" or "one ton" because I'm old. That refers to their payload capacity even though these trucks are capable of several times that.

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Here - sometimes also referred to as Super Duty. Typically with a stronger frame and more powerful engine, which increases the load and towing capacity.

SUPER DUTY is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by JHamilton

Yes, sorry heavy duty. To confuse things further, I call these either "three quarter ton" or "one ton" because I'm old. That refers to their payload capacity even though these trucks are capable of several times that.

Well cause they are, doesn't matter what you change them to it's half ton, 3/4, 1 ton and dually (duellie for some reason in Virginia cause SW Virginia is odd and drunk)

[broadrun96]

And no, no you don't need a CDL for this guy, drove a version with 800 gal water tank, pump, hoses, etc for years on regular old ordinary license. But you don't pass a weigh station or they will come stop you as a commercial truck

[Gerard C]

He's correct about the above 3500 kilos loaded limit. This means that many ambulances, fire or safety vans are well above the said limit… The way the EV's market goes, including big sedans, they could well sale a lot of licences in a near future!

[broadrun96]

JHammy can probably address it more being commercial construction guy but residential multifamily structures are now concerned about needing to over build parking decks now with expected electric car load and required charging offering. I didn't realize how insanely heavy some of them really are

[Gerard C]

Yes they are! In my area some new electric stations are very noisy too.

[joeb]

Both new and old at the same time the Classic bows out. This is a little history of how it came to be.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a6...t-that-worked/