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Old Yesterday, 20:27 (Ref:4233221)   #1301
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It might be an unfashionable view but I wonder if Perez is demonstrating the inherent speed of the car and Verstappen is proving quite how fast he is in spite of the car.At the same time,the team may be demonstrating that losing several key personnel has impacted on their rate of development,or implementation of modifications that add speed.

I think that they are definitely missing Newey. However, I think that Perez has been losing his touch over the last couple of seasons, not just this year.
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It might be an unfashionable view but I wonder if Perez is demonstrating the inherent speed of the car and Verstappen is proving quite how fast he is in spite of the car.At the same time,the team may be demonstrating that losing several key personnel has impacted on their rate of development,or implementation of modifications that add speed.
I think race to race, sector to sector Max is generally either excellent or at least good. While Checo can be up and down, or inconsistent over a lap. Good at times and quite bad at others. I think Max drives closer to the theoretical maximum of the car more frequently than Check does. That seems like an obvious statement, but it is less about Max somehow extracting "extra" performance, but rather getting the most from the car on a regular basis. It's not like he is extracting performance magically that would be unavailable to others.

This video shows Max vs. Checo in Q1 of Mexico. Max generally just carries more speed through the low speed corners and gets on the gas quicker. Low speed corners take lots of time to navigate. Being just a bit faster in slow sections can really positively impact the lap time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKevuye9j4c

I think most drivers can be fast on a good days. I think the truly great drivers are consistently operating closer to their maximum capability on a more regular basis than others.

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The funny papers keep taking pics of the 2 RBR cars and they don’t always seem to have the same bodywork spec on them.
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I think race to race, sector to sector Max is generally either excellent or at least good. While Checo can be up and down, or inconsistent over a lap. Good at times and quite bad at others. I think Max drives closer to the theoretical maximum of the car more frequently than Check does. That seems like an obvious statement, but it is less about Max somehow extracting "extra" performance, but rather getting the most from the car on a regular basis. It's not like he is extracting performance magically that would be unavailable to others.

This video shows Max vs. Checo in Q1 of Mexico. Max generally just carries more speed through the low speed corners and gets on the gas quicker. Low speed corners take lots of time to navigate. Being just a bit faster in slow sections can really positively impact the lap time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKevuye9j4c

I think most drivers can be fast on a good days. I think the truly great drivers are consistently operating closer to their maximum capability on a more regular basis than others.

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On your closing statement, Kevin Magnussen's performance would be a good example of where is is on his 'good' days.
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