Michelin makes new tyres for Monza... - Page 2

**Adam43** · 4 Sep 2003, 15:00 (Ref:708151)

Sorry, that one went straight over my head!

Fluffster · 6 Sep 2003, 01:19 (Ref:709721)

Climb:
and Nazir Hoosein, the center of every F1 controversy and FIA's favourite "official", is not biased towards the big F?

**GTRMagic** · 6 Sep 2003, 01:45 (Ref:709727)

Its sour grapes of the worst kind, and Ferrari hid for a few days that they were the whingers who complained to the FIA Technical Delegate. Interesting reading somewhere that because a "senior" team made the complaint that it was investigated...

What would have happened had Minardi or Toyota had a whinge? Would the FIA have cared??

I hope its a Michelin 1 thru 8, Webber at the top of course

ttc · 6 Sep 2003, 02:55 (Ref:709763)

As usual, if it's Ferrari, it's CHEATING. Anybody else it's clever interpretation of the "spirit/letter/whatever" of the rule(s).

Oh well...

avsfan733 · 6 Sep 2003, 04:49 (Ref:709804)

thank you ttc!

if Ferrari win they call it cheating, but if other teams cheat and get caught....lets still blame ferrari!

vatuloa · 7 Sep 2003, 08:15 (Ref:710603)

Michelin are only supplying the current teams in 2004

From Motorsport
French F1 tyre supplier Michelin Motorsport in Clermont Ferrand has confirmed that it will not supply more than five teams in 2004, and that it will retain its current customers. The competitiveness of the French product this season has increased demand but Michelin competition director Pierre Dupasquier said: "We currently do not have the industrial capacity to do it."

**Adam43** · 7 Sep 2003, 14:21 (Ref:710875)

Quote:

Originally posted by ttc
As usual, if it's Ferrari, it's CHEATING. Anybody else it's clever interpretation of the "spirit/letter/whatever" of the rule(s).

Oh well...

we also now have the situation where even if you thought these teams were just using clever interpretation etc and said so you are being anti-Ferrari!

Just say what you think with no ulterior motives, or ulterior ulterior motives and everything is better... (could go on forever this).

Anyway.

**Adam43** · 7 Sep 2003, 14:23 (Ref:710876)

Michelin have released a statement about their new tyres (as in "Michelin makes new tyres for Monza...")

http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=24474&s=5

Quote:

Michael added that he was happy with the developments made to the French company's tyres during this week's test at Monza. "We have made good progress on casings and compounds as part of our normal long term development programme," he said. "As a result of the progress we have made together with Michelin this week, we will be bringing good improvements to the tyres for the Italian Grand Prix."

Knowlesy · 7 Sep 2003, 15:45 (Ref:710930)

It's nice to see that perhaps the changes to the tyres might not affect things so badly after all.

I look forward to a thrilling end of season fight!

MichaelH · 7 Sep 2003, 18:04 (Ref:711042)

Michelins new tyres are no slower than the old ones, it's official.

Take that Ferrari! God I hope they don't win the title now, I'm gunning for Kimi and Williams to win their respective titles. If Schumacher loses it that might create a few questions about his future over the winter too....hopefully.

**Adam43** · 7 Sep 2003, 19:02 (Ref:711076)

Quote:

Originally posted by MichaelH
Michelins new tyres are no slower than the old ones, it's official.

If they have changed the tread width then Monza is probably the best place to introduce them and the difference might be less. The long straights mean the drag is more important.

However it is probably just because the new tyres aren't much different to the old ones.

Jordi · 7 Sep 2003, 19:15 (Ref:711088)

Facts - What Ferrari says

Schumacher was 8th - Michelin is cheating
Schumacher hits Jacques - McLaren and Williams rigged the result.

See the pattern?

ljakse · 7 Sep 2003, 19:58 (Ref:711112)

No?

climb · 8 Sep 2003, 07:15 (Ref:711436)

You say that new Michelin are no slower than the previous; but now the standings are leaded by MS, a thing that has not happened for some months!
Thus it seems undeniable that BS have one way or another, catched up.
Have they improved?
have Michelin gone back?
Who knows...
We just have to wait and see

ASCII Man · 8 Sep 2003, 08:46 (Ref:711558)

?
Bridgestone/Ferrari takes a beating for a couple races in a row and you call that improvement?
Bridgestone has gone back, not Michelin...

**Adam43** · 8 Sep 2003, 09:05 (Ref:711571)

IIRC Championship leaders:
R1 DC
R2-R7 Kimi
R8-now Michael

The Lounge King · 8 Sep 2003, 09:08 (Ref:711572)

It's all bit of a game isn't it.

The thing that gets me is that the FIA are not trying to settle things down. If it was local touring cars, everybody would get together with the orgainiser and sort out a sensible solution (then have a beer together).

The FIA don't mind the publicity, cos they're not the bad guys. Michelin realise that Bridgestone might actually have a point, so are giving themselves a buffer (16mm). And Ferrari are game as hard as Ferrari, Williams, and McClaren always have.

It is all a game.

The Lounge King · 8 Sep 2003, 09:09 (Ref:711575)

That's playing the game...

pole2pole · 10 Sep 2003, 21:02 (Ref:714516)

Things are looking good for the new michelins after reading on the itv-f1 site thats the williams team are very happy with them and if anything they are faster!

ElScOrChO · 11 Sep 2003, 03:08 (Ref:714626)

4 days is too long!!!

I just can't wait for that race!

pb btcc · 11 Sep 2003, 06:56 (Ref:714703)

If the new Michelins are better than the old ones
do u think Ferrari will have another moan at the FIA because there got beat by a Jagaur.

Dani Filth · 11 Sep 2003, 11:36 (Ref:714928)

if jaguar cheated .. of course ...

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