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Old 2 Apr 2001, 11:02 (Ref:76465)   #1
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Does anybody think that Williams cars got a special braking system as Barrichello & Verstappen did almost the same mistake during the Brazilian GP? It seemed like they were surprised by an early braking of both Montoya & RSC. Is there any reason for that? Anywayn Verstappen should be blamed as he put the leader out of a very intersting race.
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Old 2 Apr 2001, 11:26 (Ref:76483)   #2
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elephino should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridelephino should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I don't think either Williams did anything different. And if they had a special braking system, they would be braking later not earlier.
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Old 4 Apr 2001, 00:04 (Ref:77113)   #3
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3 rear-enders on 3 Williams cars raises the question of whether the Williams has some sort of unique properties which are causing other drivers to misjudge them. Early braking is one postulated problem, but cars which brake early (have weak brakes) usually are not the fastest ones, plus Montoya's pass of Schumacher certainly showed the Williams' brakes are up to snuff.

The best theory I've heard is that because the Williams are reaching higher straightaway speeds, they are using up their brakes more quickly and thus are forced to brake earlier as the race goes on. Good idea, but none of the rear-end accidents occurred where the brakes would be most effected (i.e., shortly after a long straight), and Barrichello hit R.Schumacher early in the race.

At this point, I'm still writing it off to driver error and bad luck. But if someone can come up with a definite mechanical flaw, I'm all ears.
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Old 4 Apr 2001, 11:47 (Ref:77232)   #4
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elephino should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridelephino should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I think they have replaced the mechanical valve actuation with magnets and when cars behind get close they are drawn in and run up the back of the Williams (no one is allowed to point out any flaws about the amount of metal in modern F1 cars).
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Old 4 Apr 2001, 13:35 (Ref:77266)   #5
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could montoya's collision have had anything to do with the fact he's used to steel brakes, which have longer braking distances?
or do they have a system which enables them to brake earlier, and then use the power all the way through the corner (or am i just being silly?)
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Old 4 Apr 2001, 20:20 (Ref:77437)   #6
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chunder should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridchunder should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridchunder should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I see what you guys mean as both crashes were very strange. Power brakes are banned so what could be going on
Maybe Jos and Rubens just need to wear better specs.
As for steel brakes, there is very little difference as Hill found out a few years ago. Carbon are more reliable. If Montoya was struggling with brakes he wouldn't have been pulling away so effortlessly.
Main plus point as that Beemer motor, what a powerplant.
(Montoya was braking at the 90m board for the first corner-brakes problems, nah)
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Old 4 Apr 2001, 21:33 (Ref:77469)   #7
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it has to be bad luck,
if u watch RB go into RS u can see that montoya breaks in the same place as everybody else cos of the rubber marks.

i feel no chance that there is anythign else going on
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