|
| Site Partners: | SpotterGuides | Veloce Books |
| Related Sites: | Clubmans Rallycross | Your Link Here |
|
|
||||||||||
|
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||
|
|||||||||||
|
|
19 Jan 2004, 10:44 (Ref:843125)
|
#1 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,885
  |
R.I.P. World Rally.
Well, Mad Max Mosley threatened to do it. Seems he's carried out the threat.
Competitors will score points on each day of an event, and will be allowed to rejoin a rally on the day after "retiring". Is this the end of rallying as we know it? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ly/3401629.stm |
||
|
__________________
"Never pick a fight with an ugly person, they've got nothing to lose." 
|
|
19 Jan 2004, 12:12 (Ref:843169)
|
#2 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 1999
Posts: 12,451
|
I wonder if it means Max has screwed up F1 so badly that no more damage can be done -- so now he's decided to turn his sights on another series ...
If WRC survives this year without audiences, perhaps he'll get the idea that these meddling changes are not the way to go. But, being Max, the only real hope we have is getting McRae to take him on as a co-driver in Cyprus and scaring the liver out of him. |
||
|
|
__________________
"If we won all the time, we'd be as unpopular as Ferrari, and we want to avoid that. We enjoy being a team that everybody likes." Flavio Briatore
|
|
19 Jan 2004, 21:49 (Ref:843195)
|
#3 | ||
 Race Official1% Club
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 47,506
|
More that Dave Richards took over the rights to a series he has no real input into. Sad really. The old WRC format is fine, I dont know why they are mucking around with this.
Its a copy of the Aussie version of the ARC Superseries, where the same course is used 2 days in a row, so if you blow up on Saturday, you take your position on Sunday. But in a 3 day WRC rally, no stage is used twice unless its a demonstration one like Langley Park. So there will be 4 winners possibly on a WRC weekend, one for each day, and an overall one. |
||
|
|
__________________
Go woke, Go broke… #CANCERSUCKS #GOCHIKO Here’s hoping a random universe works out in your favour… The meaning of life… ENJOYING THE PASSAGE OF TIME!
|
|
19 Jan 2004, 21:50 (Ref:843198)
|
#4 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 521
|
Since he is so good at straightening out problems, why don't we just send him to the middle east?
|
||
|
|
__________________
I specialize in the history of small displacement sports racers from France and Italy, circa 1930-1960.
|
|
19 Jan 2004, 22:16 (Ref:843230)
|
#5 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,618
|
dretceterini: do you have a death wish? I mean I know your joking but thats just a scary thought
I don't know if this will actually get passed by the motorsports council, god I Hope not...maybe do it for constructors points but the whole point of rallying is finding the compromise between speed and crash |
||
|
|
__________________
I refuse to let fact get in the way of my opinion
|
|
19 Jan 2004, 22:20 (Ref:843236)
|
#6 | |||
|
Race Official Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 12,458
|
Re: R.I.P. World Rally.
Quote:
|
|||
|
|
__________________
Bill Bryson: It is no longer permitted to be stupid and slow. You must choose one or the other.
|
|
20 Jan 2004, 00:11 (Ref:843386)
|
#7 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 521
|
Avsfan: Of course it was a joke...but I am really tired of those who run motorsports having no consideration of the wishes of the fans...
|
||
|
|
__________________
I specialize in the history of small displacement sports racers from France and Italy, circa 1930-1960.
|
|
20 Jan 2004, 01:16 (Ref:843445)
|
#8 | ||
|
Race Official Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 12,458
|
The problem is, they think they are doing it for the fans. But by that, they mean tv-fan friendly.
The good old days when the RAC rally was a real test of 45 stages over 5 days have gone. Now you get crammed into a few stage miles run twice because that's what the casual fan wants. And the end result is hailed a success, despite the fact that the actual spectator numbers on the stage has halved. |
||
|
|
__________________
Bill Bryson: It is no longer permitted to be stupid and slow. You must choose one or the other.
|
|
20 Jan 2004, 08:08 (Ref:843632)
|
#9 | ||
|
Racer
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 190
|
more like 70 stages W
|
||
|
|
__________________
Lang may yer exhaust reek!!!
|
|
20 Jan 2004, 10:55 (Ref:843812)
|
#10 | |||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,885
|
Quote:
On several WRC events in 2003, many of the stages were used twice. They don't even seem to have the imagination to run them backwards second time through anymore... Woolley's right, world rallying as it once was disappeared years ago. 
|
|||
|
|
__________________
"Never pick a fight with an ugly person, they've got nothing to lose."
|
|
20 Jan 2004, 11:31 (Ref:843859)
|
#11 | ||
|
Race Official Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 10,329
|
The rally GB aka 'South Wales Police fundraiser' - ran a lot of stages twice didn't it? Very poor.
I can understand the reasoning - centralised service point so teams don't have to re-locate throughout a weekend (should in theory reduce the cost). That doesn't make it right though - some of the classic stages have been lost forever to the WRC. |
||
|
|
|
|
20 Jan 2004, 23:47 (Ref:844773)
|
#12 | ||
|
Race Official Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 12,458
|
And bring back RWD since I'm on the crusade. Preferably in a Manta, Escort or Sunbeam.
Sorry, I'm drooling again! |
||
|
|
__________________
Bill Bryson: It is no longer permitted to be stupid and slow. You must choose one or the other.
|
|
21 Jan 2004, 13:25 (Ref:845420)
|
#13 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,043
|
What will end up happening is the World Championship will have bugger all bearing on who wins the actual stages. A bloke can go balls out and win the first two days, stack on the third, and possibly wind up with more points than the rally winner
And we thought all the third driver mucking around was the worst it could get..... Last edited by racer69; 21 Jan 2004 at 13:26. |
||
|
|
__________________
"The Great Race" 22 November 1960 - 21 July 1999
|
|
21 Jan 2004, 18:39 (Ref:845719)
|
#14 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,193
|
This years Monte Carlo Rally has only 9 different stages.
|
||
|
|
__________________
Think, then act. Don't act, then think. -Jamie Hyneman
|
|
21 Jan 2004, 19:52 (Ref:845808)
|
#15 | ||
|
Racer
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 156
|
To be really obtuse, why bother with the WRC anyway? Its a manufacturers publicity stunt. Support your national rally programmes instead they provide much more fun and excitement
|
||
|
|
__________________
Tony Johnston Me a pseudo? Never!:)
|
|
22 Jan 2004, 17:36 (Ref:847163)
|
#16 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 5,405
|
Quote:
After all, if a driver loses a lot of time on the first day by a visit to a ditch, then they've currently got the rest of the event to try and make up time and hopefully score a few points at least. Under this new system, if you've lost a few minutes on day one with an off and find yourself down in 20th, there's not much incentive to try and fight back to finish 8th. You could potentially be better off parking the car- even if it's still fairly healthy- immediately, getting it checked over and any damage fixed, and then taking the start the next day to try and score points for top placings on the second and third legs.... |
||
|
|
|
|
26 Jan 2004, 14:19 (Ref:851097)
|
#17 | |
|
Registered User
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,661
|
This proposal ranks up there with the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
|
|
|
|
|
|
26 Jan 2004, 14:33 (Ref:851113)
|
#18 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 565
|
Let's hope Max doesn't see NASCAR's scoring system...
|
||
|
|
__________________
Six out of seven dwarfs aren't Happy..
|
 |
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| World Rally Championship 3 | MichaelH | Virtual Racers | 20 | 7 Feb 2004 19:51 |
| Best rally in the world.......... | P R Oban | Rallying & Rallycross | 2 | 2 Oct 2003 23:48 |
| World Rally Car speeds... | Sparky | Rallying & Rallycross | 5 | 21 Jan 2001 17:01 |
| WHO'S YOUR MORAL RALLY-WORLD CHAMPION??? | Jeanburrasca81 | Rallying & Rallycross | 9 | 19 Dec 2000 12:47 |
Linear Mode
