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10 Feb 2004, 08:42 (Ref:869171) | #26 | ||
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Just for the records, Prost' assets have been sold on public auction in 2002.
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10 Feb 2004, 09:38 (Ref:869212) | #27 | |
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i think unless the each team has to have a different chassis rule is annulled then privateer teams will fall by the wayside. How much easier would be it be for teams to buy last years williams chassis and put a customer engine in it..
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Trying to fit a customer Cosworth into a car designed for a BMW, would cause all sorts of installation problems, even if they managed it there would be relaibiity problems through insufficent cooling, etc. Part of the reliability problems we have seen in customer engines have been caused by installation problems, the engines Sauber used last year, were less reliable in their car, than they were in the original Ferrari - for example. Last edited by Super Tourer; 10 Feb 2004 at 11:15. |
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Good point ST. A rule forcing teams to sell last year's cars compelte could be difficult, because teams might be worried that someone running last year's Ferrari may sell the secrets to Williams (for example) and the potential embarassment of losing to last year's car (which is especially likely in the early part of the season) will put them off. As discussed previously, the biggest teams yield all the power in terms of agreeing new rules. It's a lousy system really, as something allowing new teams would be for the good of the sport.
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Hmmm..Ferrari actually sell 2 year old F1 cars to weathly collectors and private racers, if i recall correctly. The cars are the same as used by the team bar sensitive electronics and parts...but fully drivable and race-able
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Surely a two year old Ferrari would be faster then this years Minardi. How much would two 2002 Ferrari's set PS back ?
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About £2M, but Ferrari only sell them to a select group of Ferrari customers/collectors. I believe they come with a whole raft of proviso'as well.
OT really, but the most recent Ferrari's that have been released for sale have only been demonstrated at Ferrari OC meetings, etc. In anycase it's all kind of irrelevant as currently 'old' F1 cars are not allowed, and they wouldn't get very far on the one (heavily detuned) engine and gearbox they come with.... |
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I was wondering the same thing about the Ferrari chasis for Minardi. The F2002 goes on sale to the general public this summer! Why can't Minardi run a F2002 straight from Ferrari (and a F2001 until then)? The 'new' Minardi is essentially an old Arrows which was seconds a lap off of the F2002. With the F2002 they'd be atmost 1.5-2 seconds a lap off the pace. Prices for a new general public F2001 is currently $1M USD. Minardi could potentially save money going this route. Ferrari is using Sauber to get more data, etc. Would it not be worth their while to make money off of Minardi while getting an increased amount of data? It could also be one more way to develop potential Ferarri drivers/test drivers.
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I think there is a rule governing that actual chassis that have been raced by one team cannot be raced by another..
then we would see a mid 70's kit car era starting again ! -jason |
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That would be interesting, but it would be an impossible situtation nowadays. There is so much to gain now from winning races, that teams are not likely to let others share their engines and gain their secrets.
And also the kit car era was for the Cosworth DFV, wasn't it? Most cars fitted the DFV, as it was in most cars. Couldn't do that now, especially as the DFV would be a pile of junk |
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