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2 Feb 2004, 10:24 (Ref:859884) | #1 | ||
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IRL faces engine shortage
I'm a bit surprised no one has mentioned this before, but in any case, this article was posted over at the Indianapolis Star a couple of days ago. I found it very interesting.
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Some really interesting tidbits in that article, like the snippet about Walker (highlighted above) just to name one. |
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2 Feb 2004, 10:32 (Ref:859892) | #2 | ||
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I read that on another site. Apparantly, they are going to have 32 engies for Indy. Honda, Toyota, and GM are massive companies, and I find it a bit difficult to belive that at least one of them cannot build one more engine.
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This situation appears to kill the chance of having a large field at Indy 500, which means no Bump Day worthy of the name again, which is a shame. This kind of organisational disaster on the rulebooks, frustrating and inconveniencing the engine suppliers, almost seems like a snapshot of CART's recent history.
24 and 25 will cove rthe amount of cars entered for the other races, no doubt about that. However, a lot of teams will be looking to enter the 500 (additional cars from Kelley, Nunn, Foyt, SAFR and maybe Penske. Beck, Schmidt, Walker, Haas, and who knows who else?) and it's not good publicity if some will be frustrated. |
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I was also surprised when I read this, and I'm also surprised that these 3 huge companies say there maxed out and won't be able to produce enough engines! They've got to be kidding? I don't see this as an insurmountable problem, there's plenty of time to get it sorted out. |
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Yes, and I think that TG will do anything to avoid the risk of having less thatn 3 cars on the grid at Indy.
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I'm confident we will see 33 cars on the grid for the Indianapolis 500. Some might not be very competitive packages, but we'll see 33 cars nontheless - I'm sure of it.
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Why the hell introduce new regs if there isn't a guarantee of enough engines? pure stupidity if you ask me, yes the accidents that happened towards the end of last year were unfortunate but although safety is important, I would have thought that safely knowing that there are sufficient bits to meet the new regs are available is important too.
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It's not that they can't produce enough engines, just that it isn't economically viable to, because the engines would be invalid after only one race. This is the problem with having regulation changes midseason.
The last resort might be to make some teams run 3-litre engines at the 500, but these will be much slower, relegating those cars to being permenant backmarkers, which would be unfair and make them disinterested in competing. Setting up a rule break (such as allowing guys running 3 litre engines against 3.5s to run with less wing) might conflict the safety improvement (which I think they've gone about the wrong way - giving the cars more downforce seems to make more sense) |
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ha ha- it seems that a merger may be forced on by the manufacturers not wanting to make tiny f1 like engines without turbos...
how hard would it be to build a new crank for 35 enigne (2 spare)- out source it. it could be a private team endeavor- sponsored by IMS. |
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There are many builders who have experience with various versions of IRL engines....they could do this via the outsourcing, etc...
The 3.0 L capacity is a minor change in the engines...they're just shortening the stroke and putting different cams in them...that should be a fairly simple task to convert them... |
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Is it a self candidation as an additional engine constructor , Tim?
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Chevy is claiming there will be no engine shortages at all for the Indy 500. The new 3.0 engines are on schedule, and being produced as we speak.
They can supply 6 teams now, and 1 more after the 500. For the 500, they can supply 10 teams. One question though, are they still Cosworth engines, or are they truly Chevies? |
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I think they will be untill Indy - as the "Chevy Gen IV" where the Ford engines developed before Ford got into venture with CART - but then again, if you only need to fuddle with the Cams etc thats a good question..Chevy Cosworth...
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