Argo - Page 10

GJBM · 14 Aug 2011, 19:32 (Ref:2939615)

Steve: I am looking for some sidepods for a JM8. Do you have the moulds? Greg

StephenRae · 15 Aug 2011, 08:21 (Ref:2939808)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jleonard

Before the Christmas stuff went back into storage I brought out some of my ARGO info. Photo taken at factory spring 1981. Seat fitting in one of the two atlantic JM9s built, either 056 or 057. I can't remember the names of the people, anybody recognize them?

On the right is Ivor Goodwin who was paying the bills, that's me next to him. The mods needed to turn the F3 car into an Atlantic were a bit of a lash up.

The time schedule was tight and so we did a presentation in a Belfast hotel and at Kirkistown, with a disguised F3 car....which was an adventure in itself!

GJBM · 16 Aug 2011, 16:09 (Ref:2941776)

Jo: I am looking for some sidepods for a JM8/9 Argo. Might you be able to help -- or help locate some? Greg

jwblackwell · 23 Aug 2011, 21:23 (Ref:2944834)

I have a new set of JM9 side pods, email me if still interested, I am in the US,west coast. They can be crated and shipped anywhere. $500 US dollars for the pair FOB Seattle Washington. They were sent directly to us from Argo for our JM9 Atlantic they were the last style produced and Jo liked them better than the first shape.
jwblackwell5@juno.com

Dan Rear · 1 Sep 2011, 12:44 (Ref:2949403)

Is David Clark's CF3 Argo a JM6? At the Gold Cup the nose at least looked 'JM3-ish'. Anyone know?

ajazeller · 25 Jan 2012, 22:03 (Ref:3017062)

Just came across this thread browsing the net.

My Dad (Alf Zeller) purchased the Roberto Guerrero works JM6 from the factory. That car was converted to SCCA C sports racing spec with custom bodywork and a watercooled VW Super Vee engine installed. It did very well at the SCCA runoffs (3rd in ~83). I think he ran the car from 83-85/86. From what I remember the car was sold back to the UK and converted back to F3 trim.

Hopefully that info helps close the loop on the history of the car.

Cheers

Richardsix · 19 May 2012, 18:24 (Ref:3076543)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jleonard

Before the Christmas stuff went back into storage I brought out some of my ARGO info. Photo taken at factory spring 1981. Seat fitting in one of the two atlantic JM9s built, either 056 or 057. I can't remember the names of the people, anybody recognize them?

I worked there around that time, guys in blue coats are kevin Sutcliffe and Don Peterson, Kev was top mechanic and Don was engine builder.

StephenRae · 20 May 2012, 09:55 (Ref:3076740)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richardsix

I worked there around that time, guys in blue coats are kevin Sutcliffe and Don Peterson, Kev was top mechanic and Don was engine builder.

I think you may be correct. I half remember being about the same height as Colin Lees. Nick Jordan sent me off to Belfast in a hired left hand drive Mercedes truck with a Formula 3 car to do a presentation for Ivor Goodwin.

We ran the car at Kirkistown and apart from crashing into a Mini on the Falls Road and then doing some damage to the hotel canopy the trip went well.

I am still miffed that Ivor Goodwin gave my new team jacket to a journalist on the ferry on the way back

HayesCages · 31 Oct 2012, 17:37 (Ref:3160677)

Hi All,
Just getting into a JM17 FC (FF2000)and wanting to know more about them.
Anyone know where this one comes from? (serial no. 1)

Many thanks,
Lawrence

Dan Rear · 1 Nov 2012, 10:50 (Ref:3161001)

I think only 1 ever raced in England, late '85, an American called Bobby Carville. Maybe he took it back to the State with him?

Alan Morgan · 13 Nov 2012, 17:03 (Ref:3165945)

I 'd be interested to see a picture of your JM17 Lawrence, if you're able to post one.

HayesCages · 26 Nov 2012, 21:28 (Ref:3171867)

My mistake gents, ours is a JM14 serial#1: tag reads JM01B-HK86
Does this shed any light?
Pictures to come.

HayesCages · 28 Nov 2012, 00:38 (Ref:3172395)

Some shaky pictures...

allenbrown · 28 Nov 2012, 01:07 (Ref:3172401)

JM14s were made under license by Manadient Engineering in eastern England so Argo were not necessariy aware how many had been built. The highest number known is 081, the 14th built, but there may have been more. "JM01B-HK86" seems a very curious number. Could you post an image of the plate?

HayesCages · 28 Nov 2012, 01:19 (Ref:3172402)

I'm skeptical of it as well, but wanted to check on here since you-all are a wealth of info.
Gentleman I purchased from said he was an importer of them "in the day",
Allen Karlberg.
Sorry for the fuzzy pictures, cheap camera...

allenbrown · 28 Nov 2012, 01:33 (Ref:3172404)

Allen Karlberg was definitely involved in that period but I'm afraid I can't explain that plate. Did he tell you where he got it from?

HayesCages · 28 Nov 2012, 01:52 (Ref:3172407)

I'll ask him tomorrow. He told me he was involved with this chassis from the time it was built so who knows.
It's definitely fast as it turns a bit less than a second off what a lot newer (1999 Mygale) chassis does at a nearby track. Al was behind the wheel at the time and he really seems to be a great driver so that doesn't hurt.

HayesCages · 4 Dec 2012, 01:37 (Ref:3174825)

Al's word's
"I think the guy that swept the floor made the number plates."
He said there was no rhyme or reason to their numbering system.

delta · 4 Dec 2012, 19:52 (Ref:3175104)

I have a couple of JM 14 FF2000. That is not!!! a JM 14.All the 14's had rocker rear suspension. The front chassis around cockpit area is different as well.Interesting.

. PM me if you would like some photo's of my cars.

HayesCages · 5 Dec 2012, 02:33 (Ref:3175227)

It was described to me by Al as "...the proto-type for the chassis series... bankrolled by a rich Swedish playboy..." He may have said Swiss, my notes aren't in front of me just now.
He also said it had been modified through the years and totaly rebuilt in the early 90's.
He's hunting up the old log books for us now.
I can take better, more detailed pictures of the bare chassis later on this winter after the clutter has settled. We moved into this new shop just a few months ago and I'm still looking for things in misc. boxes.

Richardsix · 22 Dec 2012, 11:12 (Ref:3181070)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Rear

I think only 1 ever raced in England, late '85, an American called Bobby Carville. Maybe he took it back to the State with him?

You are correct with the above that the car was driven by Bobby Carville, after he left the car stayed with Argo and the drive was taken up by Jo Lindstrum

Dennis Losher · 30 Dec 2012, 05:35 (Ref:3182872)

All,

For what it is worth, I have an Argo JM4-31 SV that I purchased from Al Karlberg a few years ago. It has been sitting in a back corner of my shop for a while, but we have begun the effort to restore it. If anyone knows the history, much appreciated.

Thanks,

Dennis

HayesCages · 31 Dec 2012, 01:25 (Ref:3183158)

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Turner

JM14, at Oulton Park, 9th April, 2005. Entered by Airspec UK, driven by Eddie Wilkins:-

Is it possible for you to send us a higher resolution picture for comparison purposes? Thanks.
Lawrence

**John Turner** · 31 Dec 2012, 09:18 (Ref:3183232)

Lawrence, if I can find it, I certainly will. Give me a few days, but in the meantime PM your email address to me.

delta · 31 Dec 2012, 18:32 (Ref:3183358)

Hi Lawrance,very sorry I have not sent you the photo's of my JM14. We have moved workshop and been very busy. I will do it tomorrow. BTW John Eddie;s car was a JM14b.This is very much a different car to the early 14..Happy New Year to all my Argo freinds.

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